04-09-2011, 12:00 AM
Nu Lang wrote:
Alien, the reason is that the business of a nagual is energy, transformation, expansion of awareness...its the same for a warrior. When a nagual helps a warrior, this expands also the nagual's awareness because the warrior helped the nagual....warriors teach too. Their endeavors together are not to further their tonal arrangements, so the unit of currency between them in not money, its awareness, the power that beckoned them both to be together for the exchange.
If you are talking about piano teachers and such, see that my post here originally was not about teachers in general. For them, money is and will always be the exchange and if not money, some other form of material value...in some cases time, but its always going to be related to the here and now, not the unknown, only warriors recognize and value the unknown, and I supposed we could include in this some other spiritual lineages who see that energy governs the universe. But I say with warriors they know this for certain, for its in the teachings of the Toltec lineages passed down, that everything is energy, and seeing and responding to the energy that flows in the universe is a primary act of sorcery of which warriors embark upon. They know their time here is an eye blink, so their aims are set on whats beyond.
Seems like a major double-standard. Warriors and naguals are human beings, first and foremost. What's the difference between a spiritual teacher and a piano teacher? Is there really any difference, or just self-importance that makes one think so? If you want someone's knowledge, what makes you think it is "owed" to you? Isn't that the definition of SI? If everything is energy, why is the energy of a nagual less than the energy of a piano teacher? If we are going to operate under the notion that all things are equal, then all things are equal, no? I'd really like to get to the bottom of this idea wherein folks seem to think they are entitled. "Knowledge should be free!" That's the old war cry, and MAYBE I agree with it in principle. Sure, knowledge should be free. But wha about someone else's time and energy? Does anyone really OWE that to you?
Alien, the reason is that the business of a nagual is energy, transformation, expansion of awareness...its the same for a warrior. When a nagual helps a warrior, this expands also the nagual's awareness because the warrior helped the nagual....warriors teach too. Their endeavors together are not to further their tonal arrangements, so the unit of currency between them in not money, its awareness, the power that beckoned them both to be together for the exchange.
If you are talking about piano teachers and such, see that my post here originally was not about teachers in general. For them, money is and will always be the exchange and if not money, some other form of material value...in some cases time, but its always going to be related to the here and now, not the unknown, only warriors recognize and value the unknown, and I supposed we could include in this some other spiritual lineages who see that energy governs the universe. But I say with warriors they know this for certain, for its in the teachings of the Toltec lineages passed down, that everything is energy, and seeing and responding to the energy that flows in the universe is a primary act of sorcery of which warriors embark upon. They know their time here is an eye blink, so their aims are set on whats beyond.
Seems like a major double-standard. Warriors and naguals are human beings, first and foremost. What's the difference between a spiritual teacher and a piano teacher? Is there really any difference, or just self-importance that makes one think so? If you want someone's knowledge, what makes you think it is "owed" to you? Isn't that the definition of SI? If everything is energy, why is the energy of a nagual less than the energy of a piano teacher? If we are going to operate under the notion that all things are equal, then all things are equal, no? I'd really like to get to the bottom of this idea wherein folks seem to think they are entitled. "Knowledge should be free!" That's the old war cry, and MAYBE I agree with it in principle. Sure, knowledge should be free. But wha about someone else's time and energy? Does anyone really OWE that to you?