02-08-2011, 12:00 AM
scout1 wrote:"The big flaw I am talking about," he said, "is something you ought to bear in mind every second of your existence. For me, it's the issue of issues, which I will repeat to you over and over until it comes out of your ears."
After a long moment, I gave up any further attempt to remember.
"We are beings on our way to dying," he said. "We are not immortal, but we behave as if we were. This is the flaw that brings us down as individuals and will bring us down as a species someday."
Don Juan stated that the sorcerers' advantage over their average fellow men is that sorcerers know that they are beings on their way to dying and they don't let themselves deviate from that knowledge. He emphasized that an enormous effort must be employed in order to elicit and maintain this knowledge as a total certainty.
http://aquakeys.com/d7a6_...easurements-of-cognition
"Tell me, don Juan," I said to end the conversation on a different note, "what is a being that is going to die, really? I have heard you talk about it so many times, but you haven't actually defined it for me."
"Human beings are beings that are going to die," he said.
"Sorcerers firmly maintain that the only way to have a grip on our world, and on what we do in it, is by fully accepting that we are beings on the way to dying. Without this basic acceptance, our lives, our doings, and the world in which we live are unmanageable affairs."
"But is the mere acceptance of this so far-reaching?" I asked in a tone of quasi-protest.
"You bet your life!" don Juan said, smiling. "However, it's not the mere acceptance that does the trick. We have to embody that acceptance and live it all the way through. Sorcerers throughout the ages have said that the view of our death is the most sobering view that exists.
What is wrong with us human beings, and has been wrong since time immemorial, is that without ever stating it in so many words, we believe that we have entered the realm of immortality. We behave as if we were never going to die- an infantile arrogance. But even more injurious than this sense of immortality is what comes with it: the sense that we can engulf this inconceivable universe with our minds."
"Sorcerers, however, do have the upper hand. As beings on their way to dying, they have someone whispering in their ear that everything is ephemeral. The whisperer is death; the infallible advisor; the only one who won't ever tell you a lie."
Personally, I think that the way the topic of death is handled in Castaneda's books doesn't really hit the mark, because he doesn't make it clear enough that this is not just another exercise for our minds. I think there is a better way to view it for sorcerers, and that is the phenomenon of death's embodiment in one of our energy bodies. The way Castaneda describes death is as something subtle, but if you look at the energy body which is associated with the Pranic Chakra, between the Throat and Heart Chakras, you can see for yourself that it is about as dead as dead can be, yet it is still available to us. You can literally consult with your own personal death by speaking with it, you don't have to imagine or visualize anything, you can do it directly. Just intend to meet your dead energy body in a lucid dream by saying out loud, "I want to consult with my own personal death!" Since it is one of your own energy bodies, it is all about you specifically, it won't start talking about anything unrelated and waste your time. Just one thing though, this energy body doesn't always materialize in a humanoid form, sometimes it looks like an animal. I have seen it as a sphere, a ghost version of my self, a skeleton and a saber-tooth tiger.
Another thing that you can do in lucid dreams is intend to see what happens to people after they die, both sorcerers and regular people. That had more of an impact on me then anything about death itself.
After a long moment, I gave up any further attempt to remember.
"We are beings on our way to dying," he said. "We are not immortal, but we behave as if we were. This is the flaw that brings us down as individuals and will bring us down as a species someday."
Don Juan stated that the sorcerers' advantage over their average fellow men is that sorcerers know that they are beings on their way to dying and they don't let themselves deviate from that knowledge. He emphasized that an enormous effort must be employed in order to elicit and maintain this knowledge as a total certainty.
http://aquakeys.com/d7a6_...easurements-of-cognition
"Tell me, don Juan," I said to end the conversation on a different note, "what is a being that is going to die, really? I have heard you talk about it so many times, but you haven't actually defined it for me."
"Human beings are beings that are going to die," he said.
"Sorcerers firmly maintain that the only way to have a grip on our world, and on what we do in it, is by fully accepting that we are beings on the way to dying. Without this basic acceptance, our lives, our doings, and the world in which we live are unmanageable affairs."
"But is the mere acceptance of this so far-reaching?" I asked in a tone of quasi-protest.
"You bet your life!" don Juan said, smiling. "However, it's not the mere acceptance that does the trick. We have to embody that acceptance and live it all the way through. Sorcerers throughout the ages have said that the view of our death is the most sobering view that exists.
What is wrong with us human beings, and has been wrong since time immemorial, is that without ever stating it in so many words, we believe that we have entered the realm of immortality. We behave as if we were never going to die- an infantile arrogance. But even more injurious than this sense of immortality is what comes with it: the sense that we can engulf this inconceivable universe with our minds."
"Sorcerers, however, do have the upper hand. As beings on their way to dying, they have someone whispering in their ear that everything is ephemeral. The whisperer is death; the infallible advisor; the only one who won't ever tell you a lie."
Personally, I think that the way the topic of death is handled in Castaneda's books doesn't really hit the mark, because he doesn't make it clear enough that this is not just another exercise for our minds. I think there is a better way to view it for sorcerers, and that is the phenomenon of death's embodiment in one of our energy bodies. The way Castaneda describes death is as something subtle, but if you look at the energy body which is associated with the Pranic Chakra, between the Throat and Heart Chakras, you can see for yourself that it is about as dead as dead can be, yet it is still available to us. You can literally consult with your own personal death by speaking with it, you don't have to imagine or visualize anything, you can do it directly. Just intend to meet your dead energy body in a lucid dream by saying out loud, "I want to consult with my own personal death!" Since it is one of your own energy bodies, it is all about you specifically, it won't start talking about anything unrelated and waste your time. Just one thing though, this energy body doesn't always materialize in a humanoid form, sometimes it looks like an animal. I have seen it as a sphere, a ghost version of my self, a skeleton and a saber-tooth tiger.
Another thing that you can do in lucid dreams is intend to see what happens to people after they die, both sorcerers and regular people. That had more of an impact on me then anything about death itself.