11-17-2009, 12:00 AM
Psycho Yogi wrote:
dreamways wrote:
Anyway, maybe I shouldn't reveal much more about him unless I am able to ask his permission first, I don't really want to start problems for no
reason. So, I actually deleted the whole second paragraph.
The point is that there are social naguals that live semi-public
lives around normal people doing web-pages, workshops, interviews, books, etc as a part of a marketing strategy (the list is long) and naguals that are rather strict in their
sorceric approach and deal with social groups scarcely and with great
care, such as the naguals of Don Juan's lineage.
I wouldn't like assholes knocking at my door and I think that most naguals share the sentiment. Castaneda's history, for instance, is filled with
cases of insane wannabes approaching him for countless dull reasons
instead of the only one that matters (freedom of the spirit).
This is what actually killed him more than the rest of his indulgences. Dull people will literally suck the life out of you.
Being a natural friend of naguals I wouldn't like to interfere with their quiet lives. If this nagual wants publicity he will do it on his own accord as
a part of his controlled folly.
At any rate prepared or deserving individuals find naguals without them being advertised anywhere. Sometimes naguals actually find them.
I agree. There are all sorts of valid spiritual teachers out there, and Manuel is not the only one that deals with inorganic energy or has a connection with
the death defiers. Maybe the best way to put it is that he is channeling the most energy of any of them, and why nature creates people like him I don't
know. Is anyone better off with a nagual like this, rather than a more middle of the road leader? I don't know the answer to that either. Maybe by
focusing on Manuel, our attention is diverted from the other ones, so that they can be left in peace, maybe that's his function. Either way, eventually he
will not be able to stay anonymous, too many people will notice him no matter what he does. That's his fate.
dreamways wrote:
Anyway, maybe I shouldn't reveal much more about him unless I am able to ask his permission first, I don't really want to start problems for no
reason. So, I actually deleted the whole second paragraph.
The point is that there are social naguals that live semi-public
lives around normal people doing web-pages, workshops, interviews, books, etc as a part of a marketing strategy (the list is long) and naguals that are rather strict in their
sorceric approach and deal with social groups scarcely and with great
care, such as the naguals of Don Juan's lineage.
I wouldn't like assholes knocking at my door and I think that most naguals share the sentiment. Castaneda's history, for instance, is filled with
cases of insane wannabes approaching him for countless dull reasons
instead of the only one that matters (freedom of the spirit).
This is what actually killed him more than the rest of his indulgences. Dull people will literally suck the life out of you.
Being a natural friend of naguals I wouldn't like to interfere with their quiet lives. If this nagual wants publicity he will do it on his own accord as
a part of his controlled folly.
At any rate prepared or deserving individuals find naguals without them being advertised anywhere. Sometimes naguals actually find them.
I agree. There are all sorts of valid spiritual teachers out there, and Manuel is not the only one that deals with inorganic energy or has a connection with
the death defiers. Maybe the best way to put it is that he is channeling the most energy of any of them, and why nature creates people like him I don't
know. Is anyone better off with a nagual like this, rather than a more middle of the road leader? I don't know the answer to that either. Maybe by
focusing on Manuel, our attention is diverted from the other ones, so that they can be left in peace, maybe that's his function. Either way, eventually he
will not be able to stay anonymous, too many people will notice him no matter what he does. That's his fate.