10-18-2010, 12:01 AM
No wei, I wasn't including you in with the naguals, I listed the names of the naguals I was speaking of and don't even think dreamways states he is a nagual, just that he could become one.
It makes me angry when people act like it doesn't matter a damn that our environment is being trashed before our eyes. Wei, It made me angry when you brought up that story about consumers and let the businesses off the hook by saying they wouldn't do it if we didn't buy it. In fact those governments and corporations create the conditions that lead to our dependence on them by their very nature, they are domestication machines. The whole thing is so incredibly complicated; the thrust of history, the force of actions in time, the mass of ignorance and fear, generations upon generations of conditioning to keep us all in placepace, a narrow band holding back possibility?......this makes me ask, how can this last? How can you hold back possibility? how can you hold back chaos? how can you hold back change? How can you hold back the flowers that are in every facet? This will not last, Love is the Law, natural Love not con damn sumerism! Consumerism doesn't exist! except in our heads, let us not forget we have im mage i nation, the only nation that counts and a HEART, we have a heart, oh open me! and in that heart connection is the spirit's face of loving, the kindness that takes courage and gives change power, and we have this, we simply don't realize it generally because we have been huddled under these monuments for so seemingly long yet we were here before all this....we have been growing and changing all along; coming in every sizes and shapes, organizing, organelling, organ grinding, pumping and thumping, playing, shining, singing, clapping and flapping, blossoming, sporing, slowing down, getting creaks in the joints, turning brown for the winter, dying back, going to the grave, decaying, being et and eating, rusting, getting born, becoming fine curves, getting wet, getting born, having thorn and along with thorns comes blossoming, that is the Rule! Folks, it's time to blossom! thus speaks the spirit in my ear.
Eilias, I am sorry. My ego wants recognition so envy has been out and happy to shake hands with ego blubber gut. True, I don't think gonzo is in your dreams like that but yeah he is probably in your doubts as rosy said. Is it always bad to have doubts? Its a fine edge, a thing that can keep you from megalomania or a thing that can steal your resolve to build a foundation. I have seen myself getting so inflated when i am kissed by the spirit and then mistakenly carrying over the idea of that experience into my tonal trying to keep something that has passed . My best doubt came when I could no longer deny the destructive capacity of my ridiculous and false ID, my flyers mind/ego/programming in my own and others lives, that's when I chose to use doubt as a wedge to get this cd that's glued in the drawer to pop out so I can listen to a different song, maybe even pick up my guitar and play some improvisational music. I think a person should be familiar with what their dialogue says but then comes the time to see what it is doing in your life, to stop buying into the things that aren't in accord with reality such as my often inflated opinion of myself and ideas about what I am doing. Reality is that which is in agreement with my living from the heart, for me anyway. Apparently I am seeing my reflection in you and it is your destiny to find your own way and find for your self what is real, that is, what your path with a heart is as it is mine as well in my life. Yours may well include going to Hawaii and helping to restore balance here, Good breath to you, that is, good wind of the spirit.
I have begun to get out of my ruts, I need to get deeper within myself and find out in experience what is real for me, hence these doubts about naguals who say they know the workings of things and predefine what will be seen by many who follow after them, who look to them for maps of the terrain. I need to know from within and I think its a load of **** that naguals are infallible, and it's a load of **** that they shouldn't be questioned about their authenticity in living the path with heart and their impeccability tested. There are things I have read here that make sense to me, some things I have some experience of, and many things I haven't the slightest clue about. I can't just believe them because its expected or desired that I do so. I want to know for myself.
I often notice that the things I write to other people are also and primarily addressed to myself though they may apply to others as well. Once again I have had a good learning experience here on line at this site and I thank you all for that and Wolf you for hosting this place even though I have given you some grief lately.
It makes me angry when people act like it doesn't matter a damn that our environment is being trashed before our eyes. Wei, It made me angry when you brought up that story about consumers and let the businesses off the hook by saying they wouldn't do it if we didn't buy it. In fact those governments and corporations create the conditions that lead to our dependence on them by their very nature, they are domestication machines. The whole thing is so incredibly complicated; the thrust of history, the force of actions in time, the mass of ignorance and fear, generations upon generations of conditioning to keep us all in placepace, a narrow band holding back possibility?......this makes me ask, how can this last? How can you hold back possibility? how can you hold back chaos? how can you hold back change? How can you hold back the flowers that are in every facet? This will not last, Love is the Law, natural Love not con damn sumerism! Consumerism doesn't exist! except in our heads, let us not forget we have im mage i nation, the only nation that counts and a HEART, we have a heart, oh open me! and in that heart connection is the spirit's face of loving, the kindness that takes courage and gives change power, and we have this, we simply don't realize it generally because we have been huddled under these monuments for so seemingly long yet we were here before all this....we have been growing and changing all along; coming in every sizes and shapes, organizing, organelling, organ grinding, pumping and thumping, playing, shining, singing, clapping and flapping, blossoming, sporing, slowing down, getting creaks in the joints, turning brown for the winter, dying back, going to the grave, decaying, being et and eating, rusting, getting born, becoming fine curves, getting wet, getting born, having thorn and along with thorns comes blossoming, that is the Rule! Folks, it's time to blossom! thus speaks the spirit in my ear.
Eilias, I am sorry. My ego wants recognition so envy has been out and happy to shake hands with ego blubber gut. True, I don't think gonzo is in your dreams like that but yeah he is probably in your doubts as rosy said. Is it always bad to have doubts? Its a fine edge, a thing that can keep you from megalomania or a thing that can steal your resolve to build a foundation. I have seen myself getting so inflated when i am kissed by the spirit and then mistakenly carrying over the idea of that experience into my tonal trying to keep something that has passed . My best doubt came when I could no longer deny the destructive capacity of my ridiculous and false ID, my flyers mind/ego/programming in my own and others lives, that's when I chose to use doubt as a wedge to get this cd that's glued in the drawer to pop out so I can listen to a different song, maybe even pick up my guitar and play some improvisational music. I think a person should be familiar with what their dialogue says but then comes the time to see what it is doing in your life, to stop buying into the things that aren't in accord with reality such as my often inflated opinion of myself and ideas about what I am doing. Reality is that which is in agreement with my living from the heart, for me anyway. Apparently I am seeing my reflection in you and it is your destiny to find your own way and find for your self what is real, that is, what your path with a heart is as it is mine as well in my life. Yours may well include going to Hawaii and helping to restore balance here, Good breath to you, that is, good wind of the spirit.
I have begun to get out of my ruts, I need to get deeper within myself and find out in experience what is real for me, hence these doubts about naguals who say they know the workings of things and predefine what will be seen by many who follow after them, who look to them for maps of the terrain. I need to know from within and I think its a load of **** that naguals are infallible, and it's a load of **** that they shouldn't be questioned about their authenticity in living the path with heart and their impeccability tested. There are things I have read here that make sense to me, some things I have some experience of, and many things I haven't the slightest clue about. I can't just believe them because its expected or desired that I do so. I want to know for myself.
I often notice that the things I write to other people are also and primarily addressed to myself though they may apply to others as well. Once again I have had a good learning experience here on line at this site and I thank you all for that and Wolf you for hosting this place even though I have given you some grief lately.