08-22-2010, 12:00 AM
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Xxx wrote: “But to my experience some of the things he speaks about seem so much from a male perspective, especially about the *abstract heat* building up as a result of celibacy. This is not my experience at all; the urge dies away rather quietly if ignored…”
This reply fascinates me to no end and it is very helpful that it has appeared here. This is a shift of perspective for me. An image of a cooling mood is very alien and soothing to my body and then, as well, I am utterly fascinated by the possibility. What if...
For me, being male, abstaining from sexual acts has a continually building sense of intensity. Maybe it is simply nothing more than accumulating testosterone within the blood and glandular tendency toward the production of high levels of testosterone, one of the glandular secretions responsible for sex-drive in males... I want to come back to this subject and go into more depth about this cooling mood and the falling away of desire, I would like it if you could describe it to us in greater detail as it may be enormously beneficial for males to here your perspective.
There is an issue I wish to take though, and that is, that the heat does not come from abstaining alone, although I may have drawn that image, I wish to further clarify my statement. The Heat comes from the frustration of implementing "The Total Package" for a sustained duration. The heat doesn't simply come from sexual abstinence alone, while we doddle about doing whatever else we want do, diverting sexual energy alone is only a singular component of the discipline of a warrior. The "heat" comes from everything at once, from the fierce and relentless straightening of attention. Attention does not want to be straightened. It wants to do what ever it wants to do. What if....
What if. . . we implement an all out, say, as in the case of the Dan Millman program, an adaption of a” High Gear Week," where a practitioner makes a commitment that for one week, this person is going to take all the component disciplines, and apply them to their life all at once: for the period of one week. Balls to the wall, no holds barred, pull all the stops out and totally go for it discipline. Let me ask you this Maria, "what kind of a state do you think this would generate in this practitioner at the end of the first week?"
All of this person's friend's are going out to dinner and sleeping late and going to the movies and shopping, and buying gifts and seeing their loved ones... but this person has to hit it and hit it hard. Very, very light on the food and only certain kinds, very stiff on the workouts and heavy on all forms of kinesthetic demand, no extraneous wandering of the mind allowed, and absolutely no sex, Constant recapitulation, setting up dreaming every possible chance, and not-doing everything, stalking every weakness. This state, sustained, generates deep-seeded frustration with one's old tendencies, the "heat" I am speaking of, is more and more evident the more you live this out, man or woman. At the end of the week most people are running for cover, dreaming of big greasy hamburgers and oral sex, day dreaming of a giant milkshake down at 31 flavors. Only an unusual few are thinking, "Wow, I feel great! I think I am going to go for High Gear Month starting right now!" It takes a little practice before a person is ready to say, "Ok, this is it, High Gear Life!" (Many people say that, all the time, but how many succeed.)
It's important before making this kind of commitment to you and to IT, to build up to it gradually. Before implementing a high gear week, it is necessary to implement a week of intending it, so that you have that week of intent behind you, bolstering you, in those moments when you think you are about to wane in you ability to endure it. You are going directly at every weakness in you and striving to burn it all away. The expected flux of that discipline is caused by the force of this heat that Adi Da speaks of in his work.
Again the entire essay was an analogy, a mental masturbation that should not be construed with the actual ACT of living the Warrior's Way in our daily lives. I would love to hear any further statements you, or anyone else, may wish to make about your experiences in sustaining acts of discipline.
Until we meet again,
Zamurito aka SelfHealedMadman
Xxx wrote: “But to my experience some of the things he speaks about seem so much from a male perspective, especially about the *abstract heat* building up as a result of celibacy. This is not my experience at all; the urge dies away rather quietly if ignored…”
This reply fascinates me to no end and it is very helpful that it has appeared here. This is a shift of perspective for me. An image of a cooling mood is very alien and soothing to my body and then, as well, I am utterly fascinated by the possibility. What if...
For me, being male, abstaining from sexual acts has a continually building sense of intensity. Maybe it is simply nothing more than accumulating testosterone within the blood and glandular tendency toward the production of high levels of testosterone, one of the glandular secretions responsible for sex-drive in males... I want to come back to this subject and go into more depth about this cooling mood and the falling away of desire, I would like it if you could describe it to us in greater detail as it may be enormously beneficial for males to here your perspective.
There is an issue I wish to take though, and that is, that the heat does not come from abstaining alone, although I may have drawn that image, I wish to further clarify my statement. The Heat comes from the frustration of implementing "The Total Package" for a sustained duration. The heat doesn't simply come from sexual abstinence alone, while we doddle about doing whatever else we want do, diverting sexual energy alone is only a singular component of the discipline of a warrior. The "heat" comes from everything at once, from the fierce and relentless straightening of attention. Attention does not want to be straightened. It wants to do what ever it wants to do. What if....
What if. . . we implement an all out, say, as in the case of the Dan Millman program, an adaption of a” High Gear Week," where a practitioner makes a commitment that for one week, this person is going to take all the component disciplines, and apply them to their life all at once: for the period of one week. Balls to the wall, no holds barred, pull all the stops out and totally go for it discipline. Let me ask you this Maria, "what kind of a state do you think this would generate in this practitioner at the end of the first week?"
All of this person's friend's are going out to dinner and sleeping late and going to the movies and shopping, and buying gifts and seeing their loved ones... but this person has to hit it and hit it hard. Very, very light on the food and only certain kinds, very stiff on the workouts and heavy on all forms of kinesthetic demand, no extraneous wandering of the mind allowed, and absolutely no sex, Constant recapitulation, setting up dreaming every possible chance, and not-doing everything, stalking every weakness. This state, sustained, generates deep-seeded frustration with one's old tendencies, the "heat" I am speaking of, is more and more evident the more you live this out, man or woman. At the end of the week most people are running for cover, dreaming of big greasy hamburgers and oral sex, day dreaming of a giant milkshake down at 31 flavors. Only an unusual few are thinking, "Wow, I feel great! I think I am going to go for High Gear Month starting right now!" It takes a little practice before a person is ready to say, "Ok, this is it, High Gear Life!" (Many people say that, all the time, but how many succeed.)
It's important before making this kind of commitment to you and to IT, to build up to it gradually. Before implementing a high gear week, it is necessary to implement a week of intending it, so that you have that week of intent behind you, bolstering you, in those moments when you think you are about to wane in you ability to endure it. You are going directly at every weakness in you and striving to burn it all away. The expected flux of that discipline is caused by the force of this heat that Adi Da speaks of in his work.
Again the entire essay was an analogy, a mental masturbation that should not be construed with the actual ACT of living the Warrior's Way in our daily lives. I would love to hear any further statements you, or anyone else, may wish to make about your experiences in sustaining acts of discipline.
Until we meet again,
Zamurito aka SelfHealedMadman