08-30-2010, 12:00 AM
"We get to experience anger and passion and tragedy and good and evil and love and hate, and beautiful music....is there any music in the afterlife? any cigars, steaks, wine, sex? THAT's what we're here for...is enlightenment the denial of all things sensual? if so, I want nothing of it. What if true enlightenment is merely realizing why we're here and accepting it?"
Its the *we* or the *I* that you seem to make concrete. That you perceive a choice or something potentially denied of *you*. That's what I keep coming back to from your posts. You seem as an advocate for sensual pleasure I'm just not clear who your opponent on this is of whom you are responding to. And beyond your focus, how, perhaps you can explain, are these things you speak of enlightened paths (perhaps) as opposed to enlightenment being something else? To me how would any act be any different than another? That is, how would the act of a monk who denies pleasures be different than one who indulges pleasure, as both are just acts experienced via the senses?
Its the *we* or the *I* that you seem to make concrete. That you perceive a choice or something potentially denied of *you*. That's what I keep coming back to from your posts. You seem as an advocate for sensual pleasure I'm just not clear who your opponent on this is of whom you are responding to. And beyond your focus, how, perhaps you can explain, are these things you speak of enlightened paths (perhaps) as opposed to enlightenment being something else? To me how would any act be any different than another? That is, how would the act of a monk who denies pleasures be different than one who indulges pleasure, as both are just acts experienced via the senses?