01-05-2010, 12:00 AM
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shamanuc warrior>shamanic warrior> contacting esisting members of thetenant
quantumshaman wrote:
quantumshaman wrote:.
"reincarnation" ... I've long felt it's little more than another
bit of religion wherein humans try to comfort themselves with this notion that there's always "tomorrow."
yea, that's what i was grown to believe. i was very very surprised to discover i was wrong, and there ARE past-lives.
... i have recalled some of mine.
...
When we "recall our past lives", we automatically assume
these are literal and linear experiences in other humanform bodies, stretching back into "time.
" ...
Far more likely,
?
what
we think of as "past lives" are
movements of the double/energy-body within the Now. Meaning,
essentially, that the double is not confined by our notion of time
because the double is not
human.
? isn't it us? are WE human?
My own double has spoken
...
glad you guys are on terms! are you talking like 2 freinds - or like a senior /a junior?
did he introduced itself politly?
of being "a thousand years old and some", and has experienced hundreds of 'parallel lives' - all with
conscious awareness. But my double has also made it clear that we mortal humans are the source -
did
he show some identification? a driving lisence? do you recognize his
voice?
...are you sure it's him and just him? my experience talking to
elienated falks - other wierdos (IBs? dream hackers?)are always in
stand-by to jump in disguised...
in other words, if we don't grow a soul,
...
then we don't 'evolve' ... We simply die and become food for the eagle.
...
it completely disabused me of the notion that... "If I don't get it right this time, there's always my next
life." I've actually had people say that to me in all seriousness. Amazes me every time.
-contra DJ's consulting death...
When I really wrapped my mind around the idea that the mortal human is the source of the double and the creator of reality, it placed responsibility squarely
on my shoulders - not in some other life, but right here,
Yea,
that's the mood (DJ's,) death is death is death is death. the totality
of it's (liniar sensual system's) experience is essencial for
developing the mood of a warrior as a guide toward graduation.
and as for myself -i know i'm myself - the same person i used to be 11,000 and 45,000. years ago, and still working for the same company... (joking! no companies invented yet than! just keens, to go with in fire and water! i'm still working at the service of my tribe and spirit,)
Your take on it is as valuable to you as mine is to me....
good! so we play fair? agreed?
In fact - that's the whole point
of this journey - essentially "growing" a soul with the Intent to inhabit it into eternity.
thus "no soul waiting on the clouds", but it IS waiting in the future? a tautology?
Call it immortality or eternal life - call it embracing
the totality of oneself....
isn't
it just what i say? we reincarnate in order for our soul to "grow" and
eventually "graudate" into eternity - or rather,into the next stage of
existane, also called (by DJ) "glory" - or, in other terms. leave "THE
WOMB" (=the universe) and get delivered into GLORY (=the outside of
universes).
In the works of CC, much
yada is given to the notion of our "totality" - but how often do we ask ourselves what that really LOOKS like?
have no clue what it looks like and frankly, i don't care. too much troubles ocupying my being to care about looks...
.... To my surprise, I was inundated with a
"voice" which came through gnosis (silent knowing).
not telepathy?
It said, simply, "I am a singularity of consciousness." This was
accompanied by what I
think of as a download of information - knowledge imparted through
gnosis which requires meditation to unlock at some later time.
well... impressing indeed... but it's a heresy - not your own experience! and if
some guys are still giving glass bids to natives, it won't be the first time!
... a singularity of consciousness is ... the sum total of ALL of our
experience
- our humanform experience and all the experiences of the Dreaming body
(the double) which include our past lives and future lives, and all of
those
experiences which comprise our totality - combined into a singular assemblage point... ergo... "totality of oneself".
charlila wrote:
but listen:
i am the saqateqah of the temporary washara of the saraf tribes on earth -
stuck here with the mission to give the signal to the warriors when time comes to assemble in order to take off.
listen:
my daughter gave away her life to keep me here, by giving me back her "edge" as DJ called it.
(first time i mention it, in public or in privet.)
(no she didn't sacrifice herself philanthropically; she escaped
from the fate that was awaiting her along with the rest of earth
inhabitants if i was not
to survive to that moment - and i was as good as dead at the time.)
(no i never took cc's weird talk of edge, white warms, bored fucks that seriously until, alas, life made me encounter it)
(no she was not aware of all this stuff from her right side of
awareness - but nevertheless on a hidden signal she got up mid-night,
wrote letters to each of
her closed associates saying - she loved them; why she did, describing
each one's virtues; telling them her decision to die was non of their
fault; and
tell them to be happy and enjoy their lives, twice, one time for her
sake; than she went out (of course i'm crying now) and committed her
suicide.
on the letter she wrote to be red on her funeral she wrote: i want
you to know that i enjoyed each moment, especially the last 2 years; my
death is non of your
fault; enjoy life, have fun in your life, twice, once for my sake.)
I'm very sorry for the loss of your daughter and wish you both comfort and "the edge."
thank you Della
you mean - you think the dead are still needing their "edge"?
(or you think Meitar does?)
not slightly contradictory? you claimed death is final...
oh, but you clamed the totality of oneself is the sum of all incarnations, past present and future...
(both true - a matter of point of vew - like earth sorrounding the sun or vise versa)
and the moral is?
which party should we elect?
tell me you own take, than i'll tell you mine.
Infinite blessings,
Della
infinite again... for us poor mortals?
im my squad, back at my tribe, we used to say:
at least enjoy!
[when you are about to go into a very pleasant or very difficult affair.)
Lillith
shamanuc warrior>shamanic warrior> contacting esisting members of thetenant
quantumshaman wrote:
quantumshaman wrote:.
"reincarnation" ... I've long felt it's little more than another
bit of religion wherein humans try to comfort themselves with this notion that there's always "tomorrow."
yea, that's what i was grown to believe. i was very very surprised to discover i was wrong, and there ARE past-lives.
... i have recalled some of mine.
...
When we "recall our past lives", we automatically assume
these are literal and linear experiences in other humanform bodies, stretching back into "time.
" ...
Far more likely,
?
what
we think of as "past lives" are
movements of the double/energy-body within the Now. Meaning,
essentially, that the double is not confined by our notion of time
because the double is not
human.
? isn't it us? are WE human?
My own double has spoken
...
glad you guys are on terms! are you talking like 2 freinds - or like a senior /a junior?
did he introduced itself politly?
of being "a thousand years old and some", and has experienced hundreds of 'parallel lives' - all with
conscious awareness. But my double has also made it clear that we mortal humans are the source -
did
he show some identification? a driving lisence? do you recognize his
voice?
...are you sure it's him and just him? my experience talking to
elienated falks - other wierdos (IBs? dream hackers?)are always in
stand-by to jump in disguised...
in other words, if we don't grow a soul,
...
then we don't 'evolve' ... We simply die and become food for the eagle.
...
it completely disabused me of the notion that... "If I don't get it right this time, there's always my next
life." I've actually had people say that to me in all seriousness. Amazes me every time.
-contra DJ's consulting death...
When I really wrapped my mind around the idea that the mortal human is the source of the double and the creator of reality, it placed responsibility squarely
on my shoulders - not in some other life, but right here,
Yea,
that's the mood (DJ's,) death is death is death is death. the totality
of it's (liniar sensual system's) experience is essencial for
developing the mood of a warrior as a guide toward graduation.
and as for myself -i know i'm myself - the same person i used to be 11,000 and 45,000. years ago, and still working for the same company... (joking! no companies invented yet than! just keens, to go with in fire and water! i'm still working at the service of my tribe and spirit,)
Your take on it is as valuable to you as mine is to me....
good! so we play fair? agreed?
In fact - that's the whole point
of this journey - essentially "growing" a soul with the Intent to inhabit it into eternity.
thus "no soul waiting on the clouds", but it IS waiting in the future? a tautology?
Call it immortality or eternal life - call it embracing
the totality of oneself....
isn't
it just what i say? we reincarnate in order for our soul to "grow" and
eventually "graudate" into eternity - or rather,into the next stage of
existane, also called (by DJ) "glory" - or, in other terms. leave "THE
WOMB" (=the universe) and get delivered into GLORY (=the outside of
universes).
In the works of CC, much
yada is given to the notion of our "totality" - but how often do we ask ourselves what that really LOOKS like?
have no clue what it looks like and frankly, i don't care. too much troubles ocupying my being to care about looks...
.... To my surprise, I was inundated with a
"voice" which came through gnosis (silent knowing).
not telepathy?
It said, simply, "I am a singularity of consciousness." This was
accompanied by what I
think of as a download of information - knowledge imparted through
gnosis which requires meditation to unlock at some later time.
well... impressing indeed... but it's a heresy - not your own experience! and if
some guys are still giving glass bids to natives, it won't be the first time!
... a singularity of consciousness is ... the sum total of ALL of our
experience
- our humanform experience and all the experiences of the Dreaming body
(the double) which include our past lives and future lives, and all of
those
experiences which comprise our totality - combined into a singular assemblage point... ergo... "totality of oneself".
charlila wrote:
but listen:
i am the saqateqah of the temporary washara of the saraf tribes on earth -
stuck here with the mission to give the signal to the warriors when time comes to assemble in order to take off.
listen:
my daughter gave away her life to keep me here, by giving me back her "edge" as DJ called it.
(first time i mention it, in public or in privet.)
(no she didn't sacrifice herself philanthropically; she escaped
from the fate that was awaiting her along with the rest of earth
inhabitants if i was not
to survive to that moment - and i was as good as dead at the time.)
(no i never took cc's weird talk of edge, white warms, bored fucks that seriously until, alas, life made me encounter it)
(no she was not aware of all this stuff from her right side of
awareness - but nevertheless on a hidden signal she got up mid-night,
wrote letters to each of
her closed associates saying - she loved them; why she did, describing
each one's virtues; telling them her decision to die was non of their
fault; and
tell them to be happy and enjoy their lives, twice, one time for her
sake; than she went out (of course i'm crying now) and committed her
suicide.
on the letter she wrote to be red on her funeral she wrote: i want
you to know that i enjoyed each moment, especially the last 2 years; my
death is non of your
fault; enjoy life, have fun in your life, twice, once for my sake.)
I'm very sorry for the loss of your daughter and wish you both comfort and "the edge."
thank you Della
you mean - you think the dead are still needing their "edge"?
(or you think Meitar does?)
not slightly contradictory? you claimed death is final...
oh, but you clamed the totality of oneself is the sum of all incarnations, past present and future...
(both true - a matter of point of vew - like earth sorrounding the sun or vise versa)
and the moral is?
which party should we elect?
tell me you own take, than i'll tell you mine.
Infinite blessings,
Della
infinite again... for us poor mortals?
im my squad, back at my tribe, we used to say:
at least enjoy!
[when you are about to go into a very pleasant or very difficult affair.)
Lillith