09-27-2009, 12:00 AM
This was intended to be more polished, but it became ad-lib. Find infinity in a room of mirrors. All materiality is finite; the sun, life, oil, iron ore, copper, water.
Ned Ludd
...a lunatic living about 1779 who, in a fit of rage smashed up two frames belonging to a Leicestershire 'stockinger'-the "Oxford Universal Dictionary"
sabotage...n.[Fr].< sabot, wooden shoe + ...age: from damage done to machinery by sabots : Webster's New World Dictionary
both of the above refer to 'monkywrenching' as practiced by certain environmentalists in order to stop development where lands and/or creatures are threatened.
This rightly belongs here, for the thread is about the idea that pre-industrial humans may have had some advantages over modern man Thus, my growing interest in' Indians'. Fifty years ago, before true environmentalism became apparent, Carlos Castaneda began his apprenticeship to Juan Matus. What he learned only seemed alien because of the altered culture of the Industrial Revolution. Outside of the specialties of Shamanism, everything Juan taught was once as common to humans as, well, cell phones are today.
And all those long walks in the desert! In and of themselves, they were a catalyst of concioussness renewal, as I once found within myself, and is the core of those most commited to preservation; that industrial civilization has no divine mandate to control, pave, develop, conquer, every square inch of this planet; that, human beings have stepped beyond the bounds; we are destroying the very process of life.
The following are statements from "Confessions of an Eco-Warrior", by Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First! (now inactive)
Deep Ecology or, biocentrism: all living creatures and communities possess intrinsic value, inherent worth.Natural things exist for their own sake; Animal, plant, river, mountain, are NOT placed here for the convenience of human beings. ( here is the Nagual teaching of getting rid of self-importance, and, universal equality). All dominant philosophies of our time place human beings at a pre-Copernican center of the universe, separate from nature, with separate, higher value.
Wilderness is the REAL world
There are too many people on Earth .
There must be a deep questioning of, and even antipathy to, 'progress' and 'technology'. We have lost more to civilization than we have gained. Life in a hunter-gatherer society was on the whole healthier, happier,and more secure than our lives today as peasants, industrial workers or business executives. (once again, I see the teachings of the nagual here). Foreman qualifies this with....this does not mean we eschew all facets of civilization. We are of it, and use it; we can still critique it.
A refusal to accept Rationality as the only way of thinking.(don Juan again, and a door to the Second attention!)
A lack of desire to gain credibility or 'legitimacy' with the gang of thugs running human civilization (!)
An unwillingness to set any group of humans on a pedestal, immune from questioning; be it race, political, class. You and me!
An awareness that we are animals; primates, mammals, vertebrates. reject New Age babble that says we must transcend our animal nature...struggle against the modern compulsion to become dull, passionless androids. (don Juan again!)
Earth First! is (was) a warrior society.
The thing is, I discover that it has all gone down before me; I am Johnny-Come-Lately.
All good things are wild, and free.--Henry David Thoreau. And, so be it!
Down with all Kings but King Ludd-Byron
Resist much. Obey little.-Walt Whitman
Now. Or never-Thoreau
Ned Ludd
...a lunatic living about 1779 who, in a fit of rage smashed up two frames belonging to a Leicestershire 'stockinger'-the "Oxford Universal Dictionary"
sabotage...n.[Fr].< sabot, wooden shoe + ...age: from damage done to machinery by sabots : Webster's New World Dictionary
both of the above refer to 'monkywrenching' as practiced by certain environmentalists in order to stop development where lands and/or creatures are threatened.
This rightly belongs here, for the thread is about the idea that pre-industrial humans may have had some advantages over modern man Thus, my growing interest in' Indians'. Fifty years ago, before true environmentalism became apparent, Carlos Castaneda began his apprenticeship to Juan Matus. What he learned only seemed alien because of the altered culture of the Industrial Revolution. Outside of the specialties of Shamanism, everything Juan taught was once as common to humans as, well, cell phones are today.
And all those long walks in the desert! In and of themselves, they were a catalyst of concioussness renewal, as I once found within myself, and is the core of those most commited to preservation; that industrial civilization has no divine mandate to control, pave, develop, conquer, every square inch of this planet; that, human beings have stepped beyond the bounds; we are destroying the very process of life.
The following are statements from "Confessions of an Eco-Warrior", by Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First! (now inactive)
Deep Ecology or, biocentrism: all living creatures and communities possess intrinsic value, inherent worth.Natural things exist for their own sake; Animal, plant, river, mountain, are NOT placed here for the convenience of human beings. ( here is the Nagual teaching of getting rid of self-importance, and, universal equality). All dominant philosophies of our time place human beings at a pre-Copernican center of the universe, separate from nature, with separate, higher value.
Wilderness is the REAL world
There are too many people on Earth .
There must be a deep questioning of, and even antipathy to, 'progress' and 'technology'. We have lost more to civilization than we have gained. Life in a hunter-gatherer society was on the whole healthier, happier,and more secure than our lives today as peasants, industrial workers or business executives. (once again, I see the teachings of the nagual here). Foreman qualifies this with....this does not mean we eschew all facets of civilization. We are of it, and use it; we can still critique it.
A refusal to accept Rationality as the only way of thinking.(don Juan again, and a door to the Second attention!)
A lack of desire to gain credibility or 'legitimacy' with the gang of thugs running human civilization (!)
An unwillingness to set any group of humans on a pedestal, immune from questioning; be it race, political, class. You and me!
An awareness that we are animals; primates, mammals, vertebrates. reject New Age babble that says we must transcend our animal nature...struggle against the modern compulsion to become dull, passionless androids. (don Juan again!)
Earth First! is (was) a warrior society.
The thing is, I discover that it has all gone down before me; I am Johnny-Come-Lately.
All good things are wild, and free.--Henry David Thoreau. And, so be it!
Down with all Kings but King Ludd-Byron
Resist much. Obey little.-Walt Whitman
Now. Or never-Thoreau

