07-26-2008, 12:00 AM
Hi Bob,
"When I studied the Bible , I had a real ability to read between the lines. I still say that Genesis is missing a first verse. ie: In the beginning , God.
Must be the Nagual that does that to me."
I am in complete agreement. I arrived at the same conclusion. That is because Genesis begins at "the begining",...The world of "Creation"
is the second World in qabalisic terms. Emanation, Creation, Formation and Making.
In Qabala the Ain Soph Aur or limitless light is beyond the Tree and cannot be concieved by man let alone described.
So, the "Dead End" where both Science and Religion and even thought are stopped would be the Beginning of both Time and Space.
Beyond that is The Unknowable. It is just a postulate that they name in order to say it is there. Even the highest Sephirah on the Tree is beyond us because if
we do become "One With" it we would unmanifest. "Enoch walked with God and was NOT for God took him."
It still amazes me how the Indians , or most tribes , before the white man , maintained a good relationship with the creator. Maybe even better than the
whites. They had no scriptures , no temples. They had the earth , sky and the four directions. Juan Matus uses these as well. I have a vision , or can
visualize , not a 'dream' exactly, but a very strong feeling of what it was like to live in those days , with a direct relationship to creation as it
was made by that we call a god.
That is why I study the words and teachings of Jesus, not Christians. "I and the Father are One", is about the best relationship you can find.
And "..consider the ravens who neither sow nor reap yet God provides for them". Shows a deep understanding of nature's connection with the
Creator and advice on how to connect ourselves to the Creator.
Also at another level of understanding Christ wrote the Scriptures and Wrought this Creation, and was from the beginning as the Logos or that part or function
of the Godhead that is responsible for All manifestation. As such, is responsible for these lines in the Book of Job, chapter 12.
7
But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8
Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
9
Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the LORD hath wrought this?
In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.
This is pure Native American philosophy. Because most Most Bible students do not believe the Bible does not make the book wrong. Only poor students and
blind teachers of that book/books.
Ro 1:20
"For the INVISIBLE THINGS of him from the creation of the
world are clearly seen, being understood by the THINGS that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so
that they are without excuse:"
"When I studied the Bible , I had a real ability to read between the lines. I still say that Genesis is missing a first verse. ie: In the beginning , God.
Must be the Nagual that does that to me."
I am in complete agreement. I arrived at the same conclusion. That is because Genesis begins at "the begining",...The world of "Creation"
is the second World in qabalisic terms. Emanation, Creation, Formation and Making.
In Qabala the Ain Soph Aur or limitless light is beyond the Tree and cannot be concieved by man let alone described.
So, the "Dead End" where both Science and Religion and even thought are stopped would be the Beginning of both Time and Space.
Beyond that is The Unknowable. It is just a postulate that they name in order to say it is there. Even the highest Sephirah on the Tree is beyond us because if
we do become "One With" it we would unmanifest. "Enoch walked with God and was NOT for God took him."
It still amazes me how the Indians , or most tribes , before the white man , maintained a good relationship with the creator. Maybe even better than the
whites. They had no scriptures , no temples. They had the earth , sky and the four directions. Juan Matus uses these as well. I have a vision , or can
visualize , not a 'dream' exactly, but a very strong feeling of what it was like to live in those days , with a direct relationship to creation as it
was made by that we call a god.
That is why I study the words and teachings of Jesus, not Christians. "I and the Father are One", is about the best relationship you can find.
And "..consider the ravens who neither sow nor reap yet God provides for them". Shows a deep understanding of nature's connection with the
Creator and advice on how to connect ourselves to the Creator.
Also at another level of understanding Christ wrote the Scriptures and Wrought this Creation, and was from the beginning as the Logos or that part or function
of the Godhead that is responsible for All manifestation. As such, is responsible for these lines in the Book of Job, chapter 12.
7
But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8
Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
9
Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the LORD hath wrought this?
In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.
This is pure Native American philosophy. Because most Most Bible students do not believe the Bible does not make the book wrong. Only poor students and
blind teachers of that book/books.
Ro 1:20
"For the INVISIBLE THINGS of him from the creation of the
world are clearly seen, being understood by the THINGS that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so
that they are without excuse:"