12-18-2007, 12:00 AM
"What sorts of dangers could there be in silencing one's thoughts? Could you offer a mechanism that might render such a practice dangerous?"
"I would be grateful to get an idea on how silence could be problematic. It's something that hasn't occurred to me."
He is correct. Don Juan's practices, (and Stopping the internal dialog is the most important and powerful of those practices), are extremely dangerous!!!
That cannot be stressed too strongly.
The goal of Don Juan concerning Carlos was that he "stop the world" thereby experiencing, not in theory but in actuallity witnessing another world. The sorcerers world.
He called it a "description of the world."
The experience of witnessing another "description of the world" cannot be imagined. Words cannot describe the enormity of the experience. It is an experience not a theory.
Imagine a bad acid experience. Now imagine that it does not stop when the substance dissipates from your bloodstream and cells in the body. Because it was not there to begin with.
Now, imagine that you are the only one who knows that this has happened to you and that no one would understand you if you explained to them what was happening to you. In fact that those friends who you might wish to confide in actually seemed to have a second face, superimposed on their "real face" and that that second "soul" or "being" that seemed to be them, but was not, was aware of what you were going through and was laughing about it. And was actually taunting you. Knowing your plight. Delighted.
Now imagine that same breed of taunting, hitchhiking spirt being superimposed on many, but not all, of the faces you came across.
And that same taunting spirit came across the television screen and from messages on billboards, and license plate numbers. And when you went to sleep at night, you did not lose cosciousness but dreamt and woke to a different wolrd each morning. Where perceptions were different than the day before. Afraid to sleep for the dreams it brought and afraid to wake for the new reality.
Now imagine that the thought occurs to you that you may never go back to the way things were.Bob
"I would be grateful to get an idea on how silence could be problematic. It's something that hasn't occurred to me."
He is correct. Don Juan's practices, (and Stopping the internal dialog is the most important and powerful of those practices), are extremely dangerous!!!
That cannot be stressed too strongly.
The goal of Don Juan concerning Carlos was that he "stop the world" thereby experiencing, not in theory but in actuallity witnessing another world. The sorcerers world.
He called it a "description of the world."
The experience of witnessing another "description of the world" cannot be imagined. Words cannot describe the enormity of the experience. It is an experience not a theory.
Imagine a bad acid experience. Now imagine that it does not stop when the substance dissipates from your bloodstream and cells in the body. Because it was not there to begin with.
Now, imagine that you are the only one who knows that this has happened to you and that no one would understand you if you explained to them what was happening to you. In fact that those friends who you might wish to confide in actually seemed to have a second face, superimposed on their "real face" and that that second "soul" or "being" that seemed to be them, but was not, was aware of what you were going through and was laughing about it. And was actually taunting you. Knowing your plight. Delighted.
Now imagine that same breed of taunting, hitchhiking spirt being superimposed on many, but not all, of the faces you came across.
And that same taunting spirit came across the television screen and from messages on billboards, and license plate numbers. And when you went to sleep at night, you did not lose cosciousness but dreamt and woke to a different wolrd each morning. Where perceptions were different than the day before. Afraid to sleep for the dreams it brought and afraid to wake for the new reality.
Now imagine that the thought occurs to you that you may never go back to the way things were.Bob