01-04-2008, 12:00 AM
One of the attractions of Castaneda, for me, was that hierarchies, at least among beings, does not exist. You , me , a beetle, a rock; all are equal.
The other side of this is that among us human beings, there are leaders, not self appointed, bought, or inherited; IE; the Nagual.
In my psychedelic times, I met a few men, my age , my peers, like that.
Whether Power, or the powers of the world, removed me from that scene, is still an unknown.
For a long time I felt like a novice, still needing a teacher. I never found that teacher and surely became 'lost' .
--maybe like CC who had to recall his other self?
Bob C
a PS: I am scanning this rather quickly, but I did see the remarks about Stopping the World.
The people who first dosed me with LSD had a common phrase: There is no coming down. The idea being that such a conciousness experience is permanent. All experience is permanent, unless one tries to hide from it.
There are other issues of experience that I might ask (like War) but I really don't want to obscure this thread.
Am I on your line here?
Oh , and this:
The best insight I got from Castaneda is that Dreams are Real. It is Experience, even fantasies or our play-acting as children. That these things may not have material substance, but that they are part of our, what, psycologies maybe.
DJ said the dreams we remember are the real ones, and lately, mine are becoming more definite and informative.
And, I keep citing Edgar Cayce, because he was a Sleeping Seer, and recognizing the Seers' ability, which has comeupon me occasionally, seems to be the Teaching of don Juan.Hawkeye and Crow
The other side of this is that among us human beings, there are leaders, not self appointed, bought, or inherited; IE; the Nagual.
In my psychedelic times, I met a few men, my age , my peers, like that.
Whether Power, or the powers of the world, removed me from that scene, is still an unknown.
For a long time I felt like a novice, still needing a teacher. I never found that teacher and surely became 'lost' .
--maybe like CC who had to recall his other self?
Bob C
a PS: I am scanning this rather quickly, but I did see the remarks about Stopping the World.
The people who first dosed me with LSD had a common phrase: There is no coming down. The idea being that such a conciousness experience is permanent. All experience is permanent, unless one tries to hide from it.
There are other issues of experience that I might ask (like War) but I really don't want to obscure this thread.
Am I on your line here?
Oh , and this:
The best insight I got from Castaneda is that Dreams are Real. It is Experience, even fantasies or our play-acting as children. That these things may not have material substance, but that they are part of our, what, psycologies maybe.
DJ said the dreams we remember are the real ones, and lately, mine are becoming more definite and informative.
And, I keep citing Edgar Cayce, because he was a Sleeping Seer, and recognizing the Seers' ability, which has comeupon me occasionally, seems to be the Teaching of don Juan.Hawkeye and Crow

