12-16-2006, 12:00 AM
seeitall:
You said-
"C.c mission was to go public, not to teach a few
acolytes. a hard task in this crazy world. too early to judge."
I would respond that he did a great service, in that he brought a new and interesting look at spiritual unfoldment to the public eye by presenting the teachings of Juan Matus. That being said, I find minimal value in the personal teachings he offered.
again you-
"and mind you to remember even d.j. had a hard times
when teaching C.C. it was a real challenge for him, not
"I'm the whole nagual, I know exactly what's
best for you"
Well, there is a lot of writing by CC to make a general comment, but it seemed to me that it was Carlos that had the difficulty. I do not recall anytime when Juan Matus was at a loss,... he did have to make many adjustments as he encountered the various layers of resistance presented by Carlos.
Again, the emphasis came from the whole, or Source as Bob May says. Juan Matus wouldn't say "I'm the whole nagual, I know exactly what's best for you"!! Who would he say it to? As he dwells in the Source, he automatically recognizes what another part of himself (Carlos) needs for balance and unfoldment! There is no identification of another separate energy. Jesus claimed that no one would approach the father except through him. He wasn't speaking personally; he was speaking as the whole; the Source.
I say that all traditions that embody separateness in their work will return separateness to their flock. I have seen the web. There is nothing but me. There is nothing but you. There is nothing but us. Native American wheels, used to traverse the 4 directions always return to this place where we are in the end. That's because when we realize we are one, we once again take up the battle here, against the duality.... the darkness. Warriors of the Source. Moment-to-moment. For the Standing Mother,
DG
You said-
"C.c mission was to go public, not to teach a few
acolytes. a hard task in this crazy world. too early to judge."
I would respond that he did a great service, in that he brought a new and interesting look at spiritual unfoldment to the public eye by presenting the teachings of Juan Matus. That being said, I find minimal value in the personal teachings he offered.
again you-
"and mind you to remember even d.j. had a hard times
when teaching C.C. it was a real challenge for him, not
"I'm the whole nagual, I know exactly what's
best for you"
Well, there is a lot of writing by CC to make a general comment, but it seemed to me that it was Carlos that had the difficulty. I do not recall anytime when Juan Matus was at a loss,... he did have to make many adjustments as he encountered the various layers of resistance presented by Carlos.
Again, the emphasis came from the whole, or Source as Bob May says. Juan Matus wouldn't say "I'm the whole nagual, I know exactly what's best for you"!! Who would he say it to? As he dwells in the Source, he automatically recognizes what another part of himself (Carlos) needs for balance and unfoldment! There is no identification of another separate energy. Jesus claimed that no one would approach the father except through him. He wasn't speaking personally; he was speaking as the whole; the Source.
I say that all traditions that embody separateness in their work will return separateness to their flock. I have seen the web. There is nothing but me. There is nothing but you. There is nothing but us. Native American wheels, used to traverse the 4 directions always return to this place where we are in the end. That's because when we realize we are one, we once again take up the battle here, against the duality.... the darkness. Warriors of the Source. Moment-to-moment. For the Standing Mother,
DG