03-03-2011, 12:00 AM
ok i get your point that burning from within doesn't necessarily mean you must leave the planet (I don't necessarily agree with this, I have to look further into it)Epiq
Why do you not agree with this?
but since YOU claim to have burned within, you must have the ability to leave if that is your choice Epiq
Actually it was LW that first claimed this. He was the first one I saw claim this publicly. I do not doubt the possibility and would find his explanation very intriguing. I also claim this but I am not sure we would be talking in terms you are familiar with as you cling to the outward meaning of such an event as presented by CC.
are you saying that you could leave if you wanted to? because if you can't then you didn't burn from within Epiq
I am saying that once my bubble of perception was cracked and I entered the nagual, I left the planet, just not physically that I am aware, but I cannot be sure of that the physical part. What came back was not the same as what left.
my understanding of the 3rd attention is complete mastery of perception and experiencing all that is humanly possible... are you saying you could jump off a cliff and survive? Epiq
Why do you think 3rd attention is complete mastery of perception and experiencing all that is humanly possible? Those are two very broad statements?
personally i think you make a false claim but please prove me wrong if i am Epiq
Such things cannot be proved, but we can talk about them in more depth and precision if you are are able and willing.
Why do you not agree with this?
but since YOU claim to have burned within, you must have the ability to leave if that is your choice Epiq
Actually it was LW that first claimed this. He was the first one I saw claim this publicly. I do not doubt the possibility and would find his explanation very intriguing. I also claim this but I am not sure we would be talking in terms you are familiar with as you cling to the outward meaning of such an event as presented by CC.
are you saying that you could leave if you wanted to? because if you can't then you didn't burn from within Epiq
I am saying that once my bubble of perception was cracked and I entered the nagual, I left the planet, just not physically that I am aware, but I cannot be sure of that the physical part. What came back was not the same as what left.
my understanding of the 3rd attention is complete mastery of perception and experiencing all that is humanly possible... are you saying you could jump off a cliff and survive? Epiq
Why do you think 3rd attention is complete mastery of perception and experiencing all that is humanly possible? Those are two very broad statements?
personally i think you make a false claim but please prove me wrong if i am Epiq
Such things cannot be proved, but we can talk about them in more depth and precision if you are are able and willing.