Sorcerer's Explanation reviewed

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“Last night you witnessed not only the indescribable nagual but also the indescribable tonal. The last piece of the sorcerer’s explanation says that reason is merely reflecting an outside order, and that reason knows nothing about that order; it cannot explain, in the same way it cannot explain the nagual.  Reason can only witness the effects of the tonal, but never could it understand it, or unravel it.”“Sorcerer’s do the same thing with their will. They say that through the will they can witness the effects of the nagual. I can add now that through reason, no matter what we do with it, or how we do it, we are merely witnessing the effects of the tonal. In both cases there is no hope, ever, to understand or to explain what is that we are witnessing. DJ TOP
Some say that the tonal is different from the nagual and they would be right. But they are only correct from a relative point of view, a point of view of the tonal. From a non-relative perspective they are the same. Again Buddhism is much more articulate about this. Samsara is ultimately no different than nirvana. Nirvana is samsara purified of thought. Only thought distinguishes the two.
Those that emphasize the relative difference of the tonal and nagual tend to think that it is only the nagual that is indescribable but that would be because of compulsion we feel about the tonal.
When a description of the world prevails we are compelled, this is not a choice, we are compelled, “to feel and act as if we knew everything about the world”  and this compulsion is evident in everything we say, even when we speak about the sorcerer’s world view!