04-19-2011, 12:00 AM
Back in January I posted the Old Seers New Seers Thread. The thrust at that point was to focus on the difference between the old and new seers, drawing from DJ as much as possible. The leverage was the new seers conclusions and the order of the truths of awareness with emphasis on the first truth. I thought that, that was DJ’s main focus too. But keeping CC from going the way of the old seers because of his predilection was only half the battle. I thought that this was DJ “pitting” the old sorcerer’s view against the new sorcerer’s view. It was not. This was DJ doling out just enough of the sorcerer’s view without letting his apprentice go the way of the old seers. DJ is very tactical.
“I gave you enough of the sorcerer’s view without letting you get hooked by it. I said that only if one pits the two views against each other can one weasel between them to arrive at the real world. I meant that one can arrive at the totality of oneself only when one fully understands that the world is merely a view, regardless of whether that view belongs to an ordinary man or to a sorcerer.” TOPDJ need’s CC to be informed of the sorcerer’s view but he does not want to lose him to that view, he does not want him to become a sorcerer. But it is necessary for CC to know of the sorcerer’s view, preferably through the eyes of a new seer. Once this view is established it can then be pitted, not against another (old) view of sorcery, like I first thought, old against the new, but against the common view of an average person. This pitting is not engaged for the purpose of establishing a superiority of or preference for the sorcerer’s view but for the purpose of “weaseling” between the two. To adopt either view, average or sorcerer, for one’s own is to deviate from the path with heart (center or middle way between the two). In this pitting, to retreat back to the common view of the average man and say the hell with it all or never venture from it to begin is useless. To adopt the sorcerer’s view is equally as futile and though very exciting will prevent one from arriving at the totality of oneself. Even DJ’s teacher and benefactor missed the boat here succumbing to the sorcerer’s view but little old Carlos made it thanks to the impeccability of DJ and Genaro. This is like slipping between 1st and 2nd attention, coarsely put.
“Here is where I varied from the tradition. After a lifelong struggle I know that what matters is not to learn a new description but to arrive at the totality of oneself.” DJ TOP
This is extremely important. DJ is fully steeped in this tradition. He is a Nagual of this tradition and part of that particular lineage. His predecessors did not achieve what he is now outlining. Which really begs the question, if his teacher and benefactor did not show him this and as yet we have no reason to believe the Tenant showed him this either, what is it that DJ discovered that led him move in a new direction? He is basically saying this sorcery tradition of his predecessors that has brought him this far and its proponents both old and new seers are at a dead end! Now he begins to critique the view of sorcery itself and he deviates from the sorcery tradition and heads in a new direction. The view of sorcery (old or new) though more expansive than the view or an average man and certainly more beguiling does not offer freedom or the totality of oneself.
“I gave you enough of the sorcerer’s view without letting you get hooked by it. I said that only if one pits the two views against each other can one weasel between them to arrive at the real world. I meant that one can arrive at the totality of oneself only when one fully understands that the world is merely a view, regardless of whether that view belongs to an ordinary man or to a sorcerer.” TOPDJ need’s CC to be informed of the sorcerer’s view but he does not want to lose him to that view, he does not want him to become a sorcerer. But it is necessary for CC to know of the sorcerer’s view, preferably through the eyes of a new seer. Once this view is established it can then be pitted, not against another (old) view of sorcery, like I first thought, old against the new, but against the common view of an average person. This pitting is not engaged for the purpose of establishing a superiority of or preference for the sorcerer’s view but for the purpose of “weaseling” between the two. To adopt either view, average or sorcerer, for one’s own is to deviate from the path with heart (center or middle way between the two). In this pitting, to retreat back to the common view of the average man and say the hell with it all or never venture from it to begin is useless. To adopt the sorcerer’s view is equally as futile and though very exciting will prevent one from arriving at the totality of oneself. Even DJ’s teacher and benefactor missed the boat here succumbing to the sorcerer’s view but little old Carlos made it thanks to the impeccability of DJ and Genaro. This is like slipping between 1st and 2nd attention, coarsely put.
“Here is where I varied from the tradition. After a lifelong struggle I know that what matters is not to learn a new description but to arrive at the totality of oneself.” DJ TOP
This is extremely important. DJ is fully steeped in this tradition. He is a Nagual of this tradition and part of that particular lineage. His predecessors did not achieve what he is now outlining. Which really begs the question, if his teacher and benefactor did not show him this and as yet we have no reason to believe the Tenant showed him this either, what is it that DJ discovered that led him move in a new direction? He is basically saying this sorcery tradition of his predecessors that has brought him this far and its proponents both old and new seers are at a dead end! Now he begins to critique the view of sorcery itself and he deviates from the sorcery tradition and heads in a new direction. The view of sorcery (old or new) though more expansive than the view or an average man and certainly more beguiling does not offer freedom or the totality of oneself.