04-22-2011, 12:00 AM
lex icon wrote:
Well If one can accept that DJ did indeed “vary from tradition” in regard to sorcery then the next step is to try and discern what direction he was heading in. But if we are to do this, it must be handled in such a way that our newly arrived at conclusions, don’t just deposit us back into the sorcerer’s view and 2nd attention objectives, which would just bring us back full circle having gone nowhere.
"Vary from tradition"...well you know , this is like the same dilmna that Jesus had when he explained the meaning of what happens when you pour "new wine "( new seers) into old wine skins. (old seers) The miracle ( or the seemingly magic) it would take of changing water into wine. Even if you pour it very slowly, very gently it will still explode. It was unchangable in the eyes of the Pharisees and Sadduccess. All are views that seem unchallengeable; and as long as you persist in using them your bubbles of perception have not been cleared and the sorcerer’s explanation will have no meaning.” DJ, TOPWeeNow I know that this is a tall order for the dedicated sorcerers amongst us but think of it this way. This is not the first time this tradition has stood at a crossroads like this. It has happened before and from that we have the new seers distinguishing themselves from the old seers and their path. For those new seers at that time they were following a new task set by the Eagle, a new mood, a new direction. They stumbled, yes stumbled, upon this because they were dissatisfied with the old seers, especially after seeing what happened to them after the invasion. It started them questioning. It appeared to them that something had gone wrong. The old seers had somehow become less relevant. The new seers set about correcting the errors of the old seers. So I think of this as a great opportunity, expressing itself in exciting times.
The new mood/ direction is likened to the expansion and meaning of the "new covenant " - a new mood and direction everytime we eat and drink and do this in rememberance of Jesus. A gradual change taken place never the less.
We don’t have much to go on though. We do know that it culminates in the “bubble of perception being cracked open” and the “wings of perception unfolding” to embrace the nagual and the tonal simultaneously without the back and forth between the two.
Within the twinkling of an eye! the bubble burst and so can the AP shift and stay permenately! Q.)What is the attention span of a bubble? .. A.) On a good day the rate of expansion and the rate of time varies. Tonal and nagual combining here.
Any sorcery techniques that are employed are done so within a larger context and not just for their own sake as expressions of what people think it means to be a sorcerer. That larger context, being the clearing of the island of the tonal. This island sweeping took a master like DJ 14 years to accomplish as he aided his apprentice in the preparation. This results in a new order or energetic configuration of the tonal.
It took the Apostle Paul 14 years of preparation to meet this total clean sweep. Half is the ultimate center of reason , the tonal. The other half is the ultimate center of will, the nagual. That is the order that should prevail; any other arrangement is nonsensical and petty, because it goes against our nature; it robs us of our magical heritage and reduces us to nothing.” DJ TOP
“By now you must have realized that cleaning and reordering the island of the tonal means regrouping all its elements on the side of reason. My task has been to disarrange your ordinary view, not to destroy it but to force it to rally on the side of reason.” DJ TOP
DJ knew how to recognize these elements and how to regroup them not only for himself but also how to do this in an apprentice!The cosmic vagina 's vulva was created equal on both sides.. ( meaning the tonal and nagual) AND without form! I urge you to rally on the side of reason before you should think I don't know what I am talking about.
Well If one can accept that DJ did indeed “vary from tradition” in regard to sorcery then the next step is to try and discern what direction he was heading in. But if we are to do this, it must be handled in such a way that our newly arrived at conclusions, don’t just deposit us back into the sorcerer’s view and 2nd attention objectives, which would just bring us back full circle having gone nowhere.
"Vary from tradition"...well you know , this is like the same dilmna that Jesus had when he explained the meaning of what happens when you pour "new wine "( new seers) into old wine skins. (old seers) The miracle ( or the seemingly magic) it would take of changing water into wine. Even if you pour it very slowly, very gently it will still explode. It was unchangable in the eyes of the Pharisees and Sadduccess. All are views that seem unchallengeable; and as long as you persist in using them your bubbles of perception have not been cleared and the sorcerer’s explanation will have no meaning.” DJ, TOPWeeNow I know that this is a tall order for the dedicated sorcerers amongst us but think of it this way. This is not the first time this tradition has stood at a crossroads like this. It has happened before and from that we have the new seers distinguishing themselves from the old seers and their path. For those new seers at that time they were following a new task set by the Eagle, a new mood, a new direction. They stumbled, yes stumbled, upon this because they were dissatisfied with the old seers, especially after seeing what happened to them after the invasion. It started them questioning. It appeared to them that something had gone wrong. The old seers had somehow become less relevant. The new seers set about correcting the errors of the old seers. So I think of this as a great opportunity, expressing itself in exciting times.
The new mood/ direction is likened to the expansion and meaning of the "new covenant " - a new mood and direction everytime we eat and drink and do this in rememberance of Jesus. A gradual change taken place never the less.
We don’t have much to go on though. We do know that it culminates in the “bubble of perception being cracked open” and the “wings of perception unfolding” to embrace the nagual and the tonal simultaneously without the back and forth between the two.
Within the twinkling of an eye! the bubble burst and so can the AP shift and stay permenately! Q.)What is the attention span of a bubble? .. A.) On a good day the rate of expansion and the rate of time varies. Tonal and nagual combining here.
Any sorcery techniques that are employed are done so within a larger context and not just for their own sake as expressions of what people think it means to be a sorcerer. That larger context, being the clearing of the island of the tonal. This island sweeping took a master like DJ 14 years to accomplish as he aided his apprentice in the preparation. This results in a new order or energetic configuration of the tonal.
It took the Apostle Paul 14 years of preparation to meet this total clean sweep. Half is the ultimate center of reason , the tonal. The other half is the ultimate center of will, the nagual. That is the order that should prevail; any other arrangement is nonsensical and petty, because it goes against our nature; it robs us of our magical heritage and reduces us to nothing.” DJ TOP
“By now you must have realized that cleaning and reordering the island of the tonal means regrouping all its elements on the side of reason. My task has been to disarrange your ordinary view, not to destroy it but to force it to rally on the side of reason.” DJ TOP
DJ knew how to recognize these elements and how to regroup them not only for himself but also how to do this in an apprentice!The cosmic vagina 's vulva was created equal on both sides.. ( meaning the tonal and nagual) AND without form! I urge you to rally on the side of reason before you should think I don't know what I am talking about.