04-23-2011, 12:00 AM
lex icon wrote:
What seems to happen is that depth perception is turned off and everything in my view becomes "equal." Nothing matters more or less than anything else and the world becomes just a screen of blotches of colors.I may be making little sense here but it seems like this "state of mind" brought on by gazing and not judging is at least one of the similarities that we can discern between the first and second attention. Bob
Now Bob, when you are in this "state of mind" does this evoke 2nd attention, as with Taisha and the leaves, or is it something else?
I would say it enables us to experience either second or third attention. Which we experience is dependent upon what we believe and/or what we have experienced previously.What I am describing here may be staying close to the doorway out of the first attention. It may be sliding over to the will side of the bubble, maybe.DJ told little of what second attention is and even less of what third is.
When I stopped the world I was in an unbelieveably chaotic state for several weeks. Living in two worlds at once, (the first and second attentions) and each day it would be a completely different experience.After that I went through an apprenticeship with a Christian Qabalist and had some Spirtual experiences. Some during meditations and some during waking awareness.
Each experience was accompanied by periods of living in two worlds at once again. But these periods of 1st and second attentions became less and less chaotic and more and more interspersed with, what I believe are, third attention aspects.
If there is a compulsion to make a description of the first and second attentions it would also hold true for the third attention. This, I believe, is the Kingdom of Heaven. Again a case of living in two worlds at once. And I believe that this compulsion comes from beyond us.
From the Eternal.I think it is of more importance where the knowledge, experiences or information are coming from and what those experiences are telling us than what the experience is.
What seems to happen is that depth perception is turned off and everything in my view becomes "equal." Nothing matters more or less than anything else and the world becomes just a screen of blotches of colors.I may be making little sense here but it seems like this "state of mind" brought on by gazing and not judging is at least one of the similarities that we can discern between the first and second attention. Bob
Now Bob, when you are in this "state of mind" does this evoke 2nd attention, as with Taisha and the leaves, or is it something else?
I would say it enables us to experience either second or third attention. Which we experience is dependent upon what we believe and/or what we have experienced previously.What I am describing here may be staying close to the doorway out of the first attention. It may be sliding over to the will side of the bubble, maybe.DJ told little of what second attention is and even less of what third is.
When I stopped the world I was in an unbelieveably chaotic state for several weeks. Living in two worlds at once, (the first and second attentions) and each day it would be a completely different experience.After that I went through an apprenticeship with a Christian Qabalist and had some Spirtual experiences. Some during meditations and some during waking awareness.
Each experience was accompanied by periods of living in two worlds at once again. But these periods of 1st and second attentions became less and less chaotic and more and more interspersed with, what I believe are, third attention aspects.
If there is a compulsion to make a description of the first and second attentions it would also hold true for the third attention. This, I believe, is the Kingdom of Heaven. Again a case of living in two worlds at once. And I believe that this compulsion comes from beyond us.
From the Eternal.I think it is of more importance where the knowledge, experiences or information are coming from and what those experiences are telling us than what the experience is.