05-07-2011, 12:00 AM
Hi Glance
Somewhere you wrote that the Israelites and Arabs are fight over a piece of land that is an allegory. I agree wholeheartedly with this...in a way that relates specifically to impressions I felt compelled to put down in another thread just prior to the serendipity of reading the words written here. Synchronicity....of the type that I've learned to pay attention to.
That was me, not Lex. To be more accurate it was a spiritual awareness, or whole chain of awakenings that are alluded to by the stories of the promised land which are allegorical stories. So, they are fighting over something they don't even know exists.It is a land that flows with milk and honey. Both milk and honey have one thing in common. They have already been digested and changed into something else.Spiritual food. You read an allegory and you understand the outward meaning right away. That understanding is digestion. You get past that meaning and begin to get a grip on the authors real "meaning behind the meaning." That is the second digesting of that subject and what allegory is.
Canaan is a state and quality of awareness that transcends previous socially enforced boundaries...a state of union that extends beyond previous encapsulation. I've felt something like this in intermittend states of expansion...the most profound when I was sitting on the side of the bed that one night...my awareness flowing through the walls of our apartment and out into the street and surrounding landing our apartment sits on.
And paying attention to those sychronicities as you are doing is an example of "transcending those socially reinforced boundaries."
My teacher used to use Gopi Krishna's book, Kundalini, The Evolutionary Energy in Man as an example because he said his description was very accurate.For years he used to say "Why, with 50,000 people in India doing the Thousand Petaled Lotus meditation did only one go through this experience?"One day he finally answered that question. He said it was because he "Exteriorized." This is what you are describing here. I just recently found this idea echoed in the promise To Jacob/Israel.
Ge 28:13
And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
Ge 28:14
And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
With this as a fundamental preview in my life (I hope and pray ...and a fundamental thread which seems to be emphasized almost constantly now. And all stories in the Bible seem to revolve around this thread for me. All are allegorical in this respect...a return to the Garden so to speak. The walls coming down in Jericho (sorry Rahab....bummer! But that fits too....the crumbling destruction of her externally based sense of certainty: the walls of her "city of safety"). I simply cannot see the Bible in any other light.
I have found that no matter what subject or principle I am working on, it is reflected everywhere in the bible. Later I am looking into some other principle and that too is reflected everywhere. And not just in the bible, but...all around me.Here is an example. You mentioned Rahab. She is listed in the Geneology of Jesus which is important. But on another note, I was doing a study of equidistant letter codes and was using the words beast, Sethur and Beast. (Sethur being the only name in the Torah that adds up to 666)What I found was that wherever there were close matches there was the idea of something that was hidden being revealed.Joseph hid himself from his brothers and then revealed himself to them.Rahab dressed as a Harlot and then revealed who she was to Judah.The ungodly man in revelations is "revealed" in the midst of the week.6 is the number of Man and three is the number of "Manifestation in matter" So 666 is the revealing of what is in mankind. What drives or controls what Man is.The revealing of Rahab to Judah is the revelation of something of the Christ Consciousness in us. As are all of the names in the Geneology leading from Abraham to Christ listed in that Geneology. An awakening of some sort to Christ in us.So I was looking for an explanation of the Beast and found a revealing of Christ. And yet it all boils down to the same thing. You cannot have one without the other.
A friend once said to me if we cannot recognise the anti-christ how do we expect to recognise Christ if he came. It is very similar to what Don Juan said that we cannot understand the "nagual" without an explanation of the "tonal."
And the perpetual dispute over the physical land of Israel simply represents what takes place on a personal level for me...my struggle with those elements of the self that vie for perpetuation....for "me vs. you" for "us and them"...on and on and on, perpetuation extending beyond lifetimes, if you believe the Buddhist perspective (I do in many ways).
That perpetuation that exends beyond lifetimes only applies to those who do not escape the wheel of rebirth. That is the goal. In Christianity it is equivalent to becoming aware of Grace. To be "under Grace" as opposed to "under the Law."2ti 2:15
Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truthA person who is under the law reads this and is condemned by it in their heart. (I read it for many years in this way.)A person who is under grace reads this and is freed by it. ( Reading it in this way, it is telling us the reason to study, because the bible is speaking of freedom from any comdemnation once you go through this veil.)Unfortunately, most churches and teachers have not gone through this veil and so teach the Old Testament law and call it Christianity. THAT is Anti-Christ and a sign that the "end times" are here and have been here for 2000 years.
Mt 24:5
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.At first, and for many readings of this verse I thought it meant false teachers, Guru's etc., claiming to be Christ. That is not what it says.It is speaking about so called Christian teachers, pastors and priests saying that Jesus is Christ, and yet teaching what should not be taught.
There is a sound that we hear as vibrations raise. Like leaves of a tree rustling in the wind. Something of us "falls apart" at times when we break through or rather are given a spiritual breakthrough. At these times the sound/vibration builds as a part of that experience.Jericho fell after three blasts of a horn. Seven trips around the walls for each blast of the horn, if I remember correctly.Seven is the number meaning Covenant or Promise.
Three= manifestation in matter.Gabriel is the Archangel who announces the New Covenant to Mary. He carries a horn.The sound of a horn can be both heard and felt. And it can build, the sound can grow as you blow it.The sound/vibration that accompanies some Spiritual experiences can grow so loud that you are sure it will tear your body apart if you do not leave the body.
Somewhere you wrote that the Israelites and Arabs are fight over a piece of land that is an allegory. I agree wholeheartedly with this...in a way that relates specifically to impressions I felt compelled to put down in another thread just prior to the serendipity of reading the words written here. Synchronicity....of the type that I've learned to pay attention to.
That was me, not Lex. To be more accurate it was a spiritual awareness, or whole chain of awakenings that are alluded to by the stories of the promised land which are allegorical stories. So, they are fighting over something they don't even know exists.It is a land that flows with milk and honey. Both milk and honey have one thing in common. They have already been digested and changed into something else.Spiritual food. You read an allegory and you understand the outward meaning right away. That understanding is digestion. You get past that meaning and begin to get a grip on the authors real "meaning behind the meaning." That is the second digesting of that subject and what allegory is.
Canaan is a state and quality of awareness that transcends previous socially enforced boundaries...a state of union that extends beyond previous encapsulation. I've felt something like this in intermittend states of expansion...the most profound when I was sitting on the side of the bed that one night...my awareness flowing through the walls of our apartment and out into the street and surrounding landing our apartment sits on.
And paying attention to those sychronicities as you are doing is an example of "transcending those socially reinforced boundaries."
My teacher used to use Gopi Krishna's book, Kundalini, The Evolutionary Energy in Man as an example because he said his description was very accurate.For years he used to say "Why, with 50,000 people in India doing the Thousand Petaled Lotus meditation did only one go through this experience?"One day he finally answered that question. He said it was because he "Exteriorized." This is what you are describing here. I just recently found this idea echoed in the promise To Jacob/Israel.
Ge 28:13
And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
Ge 28:14
And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
With this as a fundamental preview in my life (I hope and pray ...and a fundamental thread which seems to be emphasized almost constantly now. And all stories in the Bible seem to revolve around this thread for me. All are allegorical in this respect...a return to the Garden so to speak. The walls coming down in Jericho (sorry Rahab....bummer! But that fits too....the crumbling destruction of her externally based sense of certainty: the walls of her "city of safety"). I simply cannot see the Bible in any other light.
I have found that no matter what subject or principle I am working on, it is reflected everywhere in the bible. Later I am looking into some other principle and that too is reflected everywhere. And not just in the bible, but...all around me.Here is an example. You mentioned Rahab. She is listed in the Geneology of Jesus which is important. But on another note, I was doing a study of equidistant letter codes and was using the words beast, Sethur and Beast. (Sethur being the only name in the Torah that adds up to 666)What I found was that wherever there were close matches there was the idea of something that was hidden being revealed.Joseph hid himself from his brothers and then revealed himself to them.Rahab dressed as a Harlot and then revealed who she was to Judah.The ungodly man in revelations is "revealed" in the midst of the week.6 is the number of Man and three is the number of "Manifestation in matter" So 666 is the revealing of what is in mankind. What drives or controls what Man is.The revealing of Rahab to Judah is the revelation of something of the Christ Consciousness in us. As are all of the names in the Geneology leading from Abraham to Christ listed in that Geneology. An awakening of some sort to Christ in us.So I was looking for an explanation of the Beast and found a revealing of Christ. And yet it all boils down to the same thing. You cannot have one without the other.
A friend once said to me if we cannot recognise the anti-christ how do we expect to recognise Christ if he came. It is very similar to what Don Juan said that we cannot understand the "nagual" without an explanation of the "tonal."
And the perpetual dispute over the physical land of Israel simply represents what takes place on a personal level for me...my struggle with those elements of the self that vie for perpetuation....for "me vs. you" for "us and them"...on and on and on, perpetuation extending beyond lifetimes, if you believe the Buddhist perspective (I do in many ways).
That perpetuation that exends beyond lifetimes only applies to those who do not escape the wheel of rebirth. That is the goal. In Christianity it is equivalent to becoming aware of Grace. To be "under Grace" as opposed to "under the Law."2ti 2:15
Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truthA person who is under the law reads this and is condemned by it in their heart. (I read it for many years in this way.)A person who is under grace reads this and is freed by it. ( Reading it in this way, it is telling us the reason to study, because the bible is speaking of freedom from any comdemnation once you go through this veil.)Unfortunately, most churches and teachers have not gone through this veil and so teach the Old Testament law and call it Christianity. THAT is Anti-Christ and a sign that the "end times" are here and have been here for 2000 years.
Mt 24:5
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.At first, and for many readings of this verse I thought it meant false teachers, Guru's etc., claiming to be Christ. That is not what it says.It is speaking about so called Christian teachers, pastors and priests saying that Jesus is Christ, and yet teaching what should not be taught.
There is a sound that we hear as vibrations raise. Like leaves of a tree rustling in the wind. Something of us "falls apart" at times when we break through or rather are given a spiritual breakthrough. At these times the sound/vibration builds as a part of that experience.Jericho fell after three blasts of a horn. Seven trips around the walls for each blast of the horn, if I remember correctly.Seven is the number meaning Covenant or Promise.
Three= manifestation in matter.Gabriel is the Archangel who announces the New Covenant to Mary. He carries a horn.The sound of a horn can be both heard and felt. And it can build, the sound can grow as you blow it.The sound/vibration that accompanies some Spiritual experiences can grow so loud that you are sure it will tear your body apart if you do not leave the body.