06-11-2011, 12:02 AM
Bob May wrote:
ninth octave wrote:
HI Bob,
Do you believe their is an allegory for The Eagle , the Rule, The Nagual's Party. ???
The raven is a bird like the eagle ...The Rule is impersonal , lacks kindness or compassion. I see an allegorical story in this too.We all know how symbolism works. A symbol is the clothing for a truth. An author uses symbols to communicate ideas. Ther idea is the truth or idea that the author is trying to communicate. You might look at a symbol as a veil. In Western mystical tradition there is a saying. "The veil that conceals a mystery, when meditated upon reveals the mystery."
These veils can be words written in a book, the elements of the physical world around us, the situations that we find ourselves in etc.,
Allegory is a story made up of these symbols and truths.
After many years of bible study I found myself in the book. It told me exactly what I had done ten minutes before while experienceing a spiritual vision.
Finding myself in the book was a life changing awareness of how this works.
I see what you are meaning here, Bob. The Bible invites us in to have personal relationship with the Father and Son. I come closest to a Mary Magdalene with a cross between an Ezekiel and Gideon and Peter. Paul asks us to put on the mind of Christ, be imitators of his life. I am well behind in having much spiritual experiences but I believe every one living is written into the Logos.
Jesus was baptised and went into the wilderness. The first thing he did was find himself written in the book and read it standing in the synagog.
This is an excellent example of what you're meaning.
This is because he was showing us a pattern that we are completely unaware of until this experience happens to us.
This is the way it has been happening for me. God showing the patterns of the OT matching to the spiritual experiences that equate with the blessing of those who can see the beginning and the end. To be in the spiritual experience or seeing someone in the spiritual experience is a blessing also.
I have had similar experiences since then. Jesus said "Follow me" and "I am the way." This was not a request.
All I could think was that the book was alive when this happened to me. No, it was I that was becoming aware or alive.
The Book is pregnate and living and breathing organism. Never runs out of its energy and one will find a way to see things in a new and different light. It will appear for you to see and know in a different context when previously it didn't seem it was there.
Later, I began to see that this same thing was happening, not just in the book but around me in the environment and events I call my life.
The Eagle is obviously a veil. It is covering or veiling a reality that sorcerer's wish to experience.
There are many referrences to "Eagle" in the bible.
ninth octave wrote:
HI Bob,
Do you believe their is an allegory for The Eagle , the Rule, The Nagual's Party. ???
The raven is a bird like the eagle ...The Rule is impersonal , lacks kindness or compassion. I see an allegorical story in this too.We all know how symbolism works. A symbol is the clothing for a truth. An author uses symbols to communicate ideas. Ther idea is the truth or idea that the author is trying to communicate. You might look at a symbol as a veil. In Western mystical tradition there is a saying. "The veil that conceals a mystery, when meditated upon reveals the mystery."
These veils can be words written in a book, the elements of the physical world around us, the situations that we find ourselves in etc.,
Allegory is a story made up of these symbols and truths.
After many years of bible study I found myself in the book. It told me exactly what I had done ten minutes before while experienceing a spiritual vision.
Finding myself in the book was a life changing awareness of how this works.
I see what you are meaning here, Bob. The Bible invites us in to have personal relationship with the Father and Son. I come closest to a Mary Magdalene with a cross between an Ezekiel and Gideon and Peter. Paul asks us to put on the mind of Christ, be imitators of his life. I am well behind in having much spiritual experiences but I believe every one living is written into the Logos.
Jesus was baptised and went into the wilderness. The first thing he did was find himself written in the book and read it standing in the synagog.
This is an excellent example of what you're meaning.
This is because he was showing us a pattern that we are completely unaware of until this experience happens to us.
This is the way it has been happening for me. God showing the patterns of the OT matching to the spiritual experiences that equate with the blessing of those who can see the beginning and the end. To be in the spiritual experience or seeing someone in the spiritual experience is a blessing also.
I have had similar experiences since then. Jesus said "Follow me" and "I am the way." This was not a request.
All I could think was that the book was alive when this happened to me. No, it was I that was becoming aware or alive.
The Book is pregnate and living and breathing organism. Never runs out of its energy and one will find a way to see things in a new and different light. It will appear for you to see and know in a different context when previously it didn't seem it was there.
Later, I began to see that this same thing was happening, not just in the book but around me in the environment and events I call my life.
The Eagle is obviously a veil. It is covering or veiling a reality that sorcerer's wish to experience.
There are many referrences to "Eagle" in the bible.