03-19-2011, 12:00 AM
Nu Lang wrote:
Well, its a mysterious world, this one. When you really examine anything none of it makes sense. Such as the old riddle, chicken or egg which happened first? You can go round in circles or maybe someone would say the answer is simple and proceed to tell you it, but the riddle remains the riddle (no logic can suffice to resolve it). So this tells us logic has a limit.
But its not like we toss it out all together. I think what happens is such riddles alert us we are really not in control of what has been created, we really are probes. We are here to learn. Then trust in Spirit has to be established, we have to believe that Spirit (Force) will show us the way, that it wants to show us the way, it wants us to journey beyond the eagle to whatever place is out there to discover, it wants the journey of our individual awareness to continue because its harvests those experiences too.
If we understand this 'logic' we can see why it would create a myth, a myth that can be lived and experienced, and when you go to the basis of it it makes no sense, true. When you go to the basis of anything it makes no sense. Thus we only have trust. Trust in what though? I say the myths we were each given, and for people that will be different. A man in Africa will likely not know about Toltecism, he was given a different myth and I don't know the outcome of such myth for him, I only know my myth and those who were given very similar myths... some downright (nearly) identical to mine.I was talking to an aquaintance/friend tonight. We were outside and there was a full moon. I was telling him of a the bible forum conversation I had had with the owner of the forum. This owner of the forum used to be a professional mathimatician.I told him that something that really impressed me was that when there is a full solar eclipse , that the moon exactly covered the sun.I asked him what he thought the odds were. He said it was quite a coincidence.
He didn't try to calculate the odds of the apparently identical size of two different sized balls floating in space at just the right distances from each other relative to their distance from our perspective. He wrote it off a "coincidence.'
A coincidence means two events happening in time or space at exactly the same place or time...it can also mean the event only "apparently" happens on purpose.
The Aquaintance/friend began to try to explain the phenomena away also. It cannot be explained away. Yet both of these gentlemen would not see what I was seeing.
That it had to have been designed that way, "apparently." Because "apparently" is the only way we can percieve it. But what we learn from the appearance is our reality.
We make a choice as to how we will allow ourselves to percieve it.
This is what I mean when I say the world is Allegory.Everything points to something deeper. But not everyone wants to see more deeply.
I am beginning to see that the third attention is the realization that "Everything Fits" just like the eclipse into a Harmony that we have been missing all of our lives.
The Fire From Within is the process that makes it possible to get past the tendancy to look at only the appearance of things. It is a process that begins when we make the decision to see more deeply into Reality to the very Source itself. It is a decision that we make every day and it gets stronger as it is reafirmed to be true.
Ro 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:To look at the world as if it is an allegory is much preferable, in my opinon than not to.But when the allegory gets hit by the Light it's a Whole Other Thing.
Well, its a mysterious world, this one. When you really examine anything none of it makes sense. Such as the old riddle, chicken or egg which happened first? You can go round in circles or maybe someone would say the answer is simple and proceed to tell you it, but the riddle remains the riddle (no logic can suffice to resolve it). So this tells us logic has a limit.
But its not like we toss it out all together. I think what happens is such riddles alert us we are really not in control of what has been created, we really are probes. We are here to learn. Then trust in Spirit has to be established, we have to believe that Spirit (Force) will show us the way, that it wants to show us the way, it wants us to journey beyond the eagle to whatever place is out there to discover, it wants the journey of our individual awareness to continue because its harvests those experiences too.
If we understand this 'logic' we can see why it would create a myth, a myth that can be lived and experienced, and when you go to the basis of it it makes no sense, true. When you go to the basis of anything it makes no sense. Thus we only have trust. Trust in what though? I say the myths we were each given, and for people that will be different. A man in Africa will likely not know about Toltecism, he was given a different myth and I don't know the outcome of such myth for him, I only know my myth and those who were given very similar myths... some downright (nearly) identical to mine.I was talking to an aquaintance/friend tonight. We were outside and there was a full moon. I was telling him of a the bible forum conversation I had had with the owner of the forum. This owner of the forum used to be a professional mathimatician.I told him that something that really impressed me was that when there is a full solar eclipse , that the moon exactly covered the sun.I asked him what he thought the odds were. He said it was quite a coincidence.
He didn't try to calculate the odds of the apparently identical size of two different sized balls floating in space at just the right distances from each other relative to their distance from our perspective. He wrote it off a "coincidence.'
A coincidence means two events happening in time or space at exactly the same place or time...it can also mean the event only "apparently" happens on purpose.
The Aquaintance/friend began to try to explain the phenomena away also. It cannot be explained away. Yet both of these gentlemen would not see what I was seeing.
That it had to have been designed that way, "apparently." Because "apparently" is the only way we can percieve it. But what we learn from the appearance is our reality.
We make a choice as to how we will allow ourselves to percieve it.
This is what I mean when I say the world is Allegory.Everything points to something deeper. But not everyone wants to see more deeply.
I am beginning to see that the third attention is the realization that "Everything Fits" just like the eclipse into a Harmony that we have been missing all of our lives.
The Fire From Within is the process that makes it possible to get past the tendancy to look at only the appearance of things. It is a process that begins when we make the decision to see more deeply into Reality to the very Source itself. It is a decision that we make every day and it gets stronger as it is reafirmed to be true.
Ro 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:To look at the world as if it is an allegory is much preferable, in my opinon than not to.But when the allegory gets hit by the Light it's a Whole Other Thing.