08-28-2008, 12:00 AM
grandspeculator wrote:
"The reason we called him the Nagual," Nestor went on, "is because he was split in two. In
other words, any time he needed to, he could get into another track that we don't have ourselves. Something would come out of him; something that was not
a double, but a horrendous, menacing shape that looked like him but was twice his size. We call that shape the nagual and anybody who has it is, of course,
the Nagual.
So, the nagual-body is not the double/dreaming-body, it is something else entirely. It's big and scary and pops out in a surprising way.
Here's the thing, this nagual-energy-body does not account for the continuous energy that a nagual channels/radiates, that special kind of energy that is
their "flavor", that creates a common dream for their party. What I have seen is that the nagual-energy-body has its own dreaming-body, one that is
different than the dreaming-body we normally dream with. This second dreaming-body seems to maintain a continuous frequency of energy, peculiar to each
person, that causes it to glow. That glow of the 2nd dreaming-body is pure intent. OK, here is where it is important. A true nagual can not only manifest
their nagual-body, but they can also control the dreaming of their nagual-dreaming-body. The nagual-dreaming-body, for the average person, is completely out
of control, but, by sharing a nagual's dream, it can be used as a bridge to the nagual himself. As far as I can tell, a nagual can dream very differently
than what a normal person can, and the nagual's dream is what moves the assemblage point. Basically, what I'm saying is that we have a
tonal-waking-body (normal physical self) and a tonal-dreaming-body (normal dreaming and lucid dreaming); and, these are parallel to a nagual-waking-body (scary
thing that jumps out of your head) and a nagual-dreaming-body (energy transmitter and assemblage point shifter).
"The reason we called him the Nagual," Nestor went on, "is because he was split in two. In
other words, any time he needed to, he could get into another track that we don't have ourselves. Something would come out of him; something that was not
a double, but a horrendous, menacing shape that looked like him but was twice his size. We call that shape the nagual and anybody who has it is, of course,
the Nagual.
So, the nagual-body is not the double/dreaming-body, it is something else entirely. It's big and scary and pops out in a surprising way.
Here's the thing, this nagual-energy-body does not account for the continuous energy that a nagual channels/radiates, that special kind of energy that is
their "flavor", that creates a common dream for their party. What I have seen is that the nagual-energy-body has its own dreaming-body, one that is
different than the dreaming-body we normally dream with. This second dreaming-body seems to maintain a continuous frequency of energy, peculiar to each
person, that causes it to glow. That glow of the 2nd dreaming-body is pure intent. OK, here is where it is important. A true nagual can not only manifest
their nagual-body, but they can also control the dreaming of their nagual-dreaming-body. The nagual-dreaming-body, for the average person, is completely out
of control, but, by sharing a nagual's dream, it can be used as a bridge to the nagual himself. As far as I can tell, a nagual can dream very differently
than what a normal person can, and the nagual's dream is what moves the assemblage point. Basically, what I'm saying is that we have a
tonal-waking-body (normal physical self) and a tonal-dreaming-body (normal dreaming and lucid dreaming); and, these are parallel to a nagual-waking-body (scary
thing that jumps out of your head) and a nagual-dreaming-body (energy transmitter and assemblage point shifter).

