08-23-2008, 12:00 AM
grandspeculator wrote:
I'am remembering the episode when Don Juan takes Carlos to see the Death Defiers on their carefully prepared trap... who knows how many fell prey of
them.
Well, if you are on the same wavelength as the death defier, it wouldn't be a trap. They don't mess with anyone that is not like them.
Even Don Juan was like them, otherwise he would not have been accepted. I think Don Juan was kind of pissed off, because he knew that his involvement within
his own lineage was not left to chance. Even though the spirit chose him, and chose Castaneda, it really chose them for the death defier. So, you have to ask
yourself, can death defiers control the workings of the spirit or is the spirit actually on their side? And, how much say if any does a nagual have in
choosing his successor? What the death defiers showed me, which I wasn't aware of before, is that there is a single event, an energy transfer between a
lineage's existing nagual and his chosen apprentice. We already know that the nagual apprentice has to be a double being, but there are lots and lots of
double beings out there, so that's just the minimum requirement. We also know that the nagual candidate has to be capable of fulfilling his duties, but
there is quite a bit of leeway here as long as the person has manifested a high energy level. Castaneda also spoke of "cyclic beings", people who
are energetically related, apparently this being a crucial element of constructing a nagual's party. I think that if nagualists can fully understand the
"mechanical" workings of lineages, naguals and their parties, it will be alot easier for them to successfully branch off into a variety of
directions. I was hoping that Cleargreen would end up being a sort of bootcamp for future sorcerers and naguals, but instead it just ended up being another
instrument of the death defiers. Obviously, all my chips are on them, but that's just me, I know there are many other possible ways to walk the path of
nagualism, and I would like to see most of them succeed.
I'am remembering the episode when Don Juan takes Carlos to see the Death Defiers on their carefully prepared trap... who knows how many fell prey of
them.
Well, if you are on the same wavelength as the death defier, it wouldn't be a trap. They don't mess with anyone that is not like them.
Even Don Juan was like them, otherwise he would not have been accepted. I think Don Juan was kind of pissed off, because he knew that his involvement within
his own lineage was not left to chance. Even though the spirit chose him, and chose Castaneda, it really chose them for the death defier. So, you have to ask
yourself, can death defiers control the workings of the spirit or is the spirit actually on their side? And, how much say if any does a nagual have in
choosing his successor? What the death defiers showed me, which I wasn't aware of before, is that there is a single event, an energy transfer between a
lineage's existing nagual and his chosen apprentice. We already know that the nagual apprentice has to be a double being, but there are lots and lots of
double beings out there, so that's just the minimum requirement. We also know that the nagual candidate has to be capable of fulfilling his duties, but
there is quite a bit of leeway here as long as the person has manifested a high energy level. Castaneda also spoke of "cyclic beings", people who
are energetically related, apparently this being a crucial element of constructing a nagual's party. I think that if nagualists can fully understand the
"mechanical" workings of lineages, naguals and their parties, it will be alot easier for them to successfully branch off into a variety of
directions. I was hoping that Cleargreen would end up being a sort of bootcamp for future sorcerers and naguals, but instead it just ended up being another
instrument of the death defiers. Obviously, all my chips are on them, but that's just me, I know there are many other possible ways to walk the path of
nagualism, and I would like to see most of them succeed.

