08-21-2008, 12:00 AM
dreamways wrote:
spareenergy
wrote:
When he talks about "their basic nature", does he mean the basic nature of the actions or the basic nature of their
selves (their unadulterated lower selves)?
I'm pretty sure he meant the basic nature of themselves. In my opinion, what you have to ask yourself here is "why?" It is easy to put down
the old sorcerers out of context, I would hope that you don't fall into that way of thinking. The reason why the old sorcerers didn't give a ****
about "changing" or "seeking freedom" is because it was irrelevant to them. They had already dreamed themselves here from another world,
they had already made themselves into what was necessary for this world, they had nothing left to do but reap the rewards of their journey. That's the
secret of the original "old sorcerers", they were visitors that stuck around for awhile and then left.
This is one of the most important thing that you can learn from them, that not only are there other worlds which you can dream yourself into permanently,
but, there are worlds which allow you to do things that you can't do here. It's like the story of superman having powers on earth but not on krypton.
Think of krypton as the old sorcerer home world, and this earth as one of their playgrounds. In this world, they were able to able to move the assemblage
point of pretty much anything they ran into, so, they got to play god. Thousands of years have passed, and their influence can still be felt here.
Interesting points Dreamways. So you are saying the "old sorcerers" are related to the progenitors of Mankind?
In other words, they were at the point of Cosmo-genesis where Spirit was descending into Matter, science was but a dream and magic was afoot?
When the city of Atlantis stood serene above the sea,
Long time before our time when the world was free,
Those were the days.
Golden cymbals flying on ocarina sounds,
Before wild medusas serpents gave birth to hell
Disguised as heaven.
Those were the days, yes they were, those were the days.
Those were their ways
Miracles everywhere!
Where are they now?
They're gone!
Those were their ways, yes they were, those were their ways.
Those were the days, yes they were, those were the days.
Tie your painted shoes and dance, blue daylight in your hair,
Overhead a noiseless eagle fans a flame.
Wonder everywhere.
-- Ginger Baker and Mike Taylor
spareenergy
wrote:
When he talks about "their basic nature", does he mean the basic nature of the actions or the basic nature of their
selves (their unadulterated lower selves)?
I'm pretty sure he meant the basic nature of themselves. In my opinion, what you have to ask yourself here is "why?" It is easy to put down
the old sorcerers out of context, I would hope that you don't fall into that way of thinking. The reason why the old sorcerers didn't give a ****
about "changing" or "seeking freedom" is because it was irrelevant to them. They had already dreamed themselves here from another world,
they had already made themselves into what was necessary for this world, they had nothing left to do but reap the rewards of their journey. That's the
secret of the original "old sorcerers", they were visitors that stuck around for awhile and then left.
This is one of the most important thing that you can learn from them, that not only are there other worlds which you can dream yourself into permanently,
but, there are worlds which allow you to do things that you can't do here. It's like the story of superman having powers on earth but not on krypton.
Think of krypton as the old sorcerer home world, and this earth as one of their playgrounds. In this world, they were able to able to move the assemblage
point of pretty much anything they ran into, so, they got to play god. Thousands of years have passed, and their influence can still be felt here.
Interesting points Dreamways. So you are saying the "old sorcerers" are related to the progenitors of Mankind?
In other words, they were at the point of Cosmo-genesis where Spirit was descending into Matter, science was but a dream and magic was afoot?
When the city of Atlantis stood serene above the sea,
Long time before our time when the world was free,
Those were the days.
Golden cymbals flying on ocarina sounds,
Before wild medusas serpents gave birth to hell
Disguised as heaven.
Those were the days, yes they were, those were the days.
Those were their ways
Miracles everywhere!
Where are they now?
They're gone!
Those were their ways, yes they were, those were their ways.
Those were the days, yes they were, those were the days.
Tie your painted shoes and dance, blue daylight in your hair,
Overhead a noiseless eagle fans a flame.
Wonder everywhere.
-- Ginger Baker and Mike Taylor