12-19-2008, 12:00 AM
Bob May wrote:
Hi Grand,
"Don Juan was a good nagual, if anything. In his own words he didn't know how to help the tonal masses. He wanted, but just didn't know how.
Castaneda inadvertently help the tonal masses by giving out the ways of nagual seer-ship in the form of books."
Don Juan knew the information would and in fact did go out through Carlos. It was Power that lead him to Carlos (or the other way round). And he also spoke
of the letting out of this knowledge not mattering too much because it was all dependent on personal power of the individual recieving the knowledge.
So in my way of seeing it Don Juan was "using" Carlos, Carlos was using Don Juan and Power was using both of them. It was time for the knowledge to
be made public.
I certainly made use of the knowledge.
No one was abusing anyone in his. (I'm strictly speaking here about the knowledge being published, though. Not Carlos' relationships with his
followers later on.)
As far as the knowledge itself, I believe much good and much damage has come as a result of it. It is dangerous knowledge and many got caught up in it too
early in life with no teacher or guidance available.
Yep, that's pretty much how things worked out. Everything worked as good as it could. Regrettably knowledge-of-power is forever a double edged
sword.
As for guidance you know how it works: If the apprentice is ready, the master appears.
Hopefully a number of individuals will become living nagual inheritors beyond Castaneda's line. There are quite a few, but most of them are self-important
tonals.
Hi Grand,
"Don Juan was a good nagual, if anything. In his own words he didn't know how to help the tonal masses. He wanted, but just didn't know how.
Castaneda inadvertently help the tonal masses by giving out the ways of nagual seer-ship in the form of books."
Don Juan knew the information would and in fact did go out through Carlos. It was Power that lead him to Carlos (or the other way round). And he also spoke
of the letting out of this knowledge not mattering too much because it was all dependent on personal power of the individual recieving the knowledge.
So in my way of seeing it Don Juan was "using" Carlos, Carlos was using Don Juan and Power was using both of them. It was time for the knowledge to
be made public.
I certainly made use of the knowledge.
No one was abusing anyone in his. (I'm strictly speaking here about the knowledge being published, though. Not Carlos' relationships with his
followers later on.)
As far as the knowledge itself, I believe much good and much damage has come as a result of it. It is dangerous knowledge and many got caught up in it too
early in life with no teacher or guidance available.
Yep, that's pretty much how things worked out. Everything worked as good as it could. Regrettably knowledge-of-power is forever a double edged
sword.
As for guidance you know how it works: If the apprentice is ready, the master appears.
Hopefully a number of individuals will become living nagual inheritors beyond Castaneda's line. There are quite a few, but most of them are self-important
tonals.