11-27-2011, 12:01 AM
quantumshaman wrote:
DU uses the argument that if CC lied about one thing, he probably lied about all of it. Well... let's examine that premise just briefly. Assuming anyone here studies martial arts or yoga, how would it affect your experience if you found out that your teacher lied about something? It's the old cliche of shooting the messenger. DU can blame CC all day long, but it doesn't invalidate the message - for those who have actually experienced it. The messenger lied about how he got the information, but does that invalidate the information itself?
I think you may be mis-understanding me and where I'm coming from... first off I didn't use that argument if you think so you totally missed the essence of what I was saying, but since you bring it up if CC lied about some things then that does raise some flags and makes me question the real truth of his books.
What makes you think I'm blaming CC? This has nothing to do with blame, why the heck do you think I blamed him? Are you seeing things that are not there?
QS: The messenger lied about how he got the information, but does that invalidate the information itself?
Thats not the issue, the issue is, is his source of information itself a lie (ie. don Juan not real, like Dan Millman's Socrates).
DU uses the argument that if CC lied about one thing, he probably lied about all of it. Well... let's examine that premise just briefly. Assuming anyone here studies martial arts or yoga, how would it affect your experience if you found out that your teacher lied about something? It's the old cliche of shooting the messenger. DU can blame CC all day long, but it doesn't invalidate the message - for those who have actually experienced it. The messenger lied about how he got the information, but does that invalidate the information itself?
I think you may be mis-understanding me and where I'm coming from... first off I didn't use that argument if you think so you totally missed the essence of what I was saying, but since you bring it up if CC lied about some things then that does raise some flags and makes me question the real truth of his books.
What makes you think I'm blaming CC? This has nothing to do with blame, why the heck do you think I blamed him? Are you seeing things that are not there?
QS: The messenger lied about how he got the information, but does that invalidate the information itself?
Thats not the issue, the issue is, is his source of information itself a lie (ie. don Juan not real, like Dan Millman's Socrates).