12-01-2011, 12:01 AM
Diamond Unicorn wrote:
I absolutely get your point but I disagree with your conclusion that it 'doesn't matter' or its irrelevant.
It matters simply because there is a difference between truth and fantasy, and anyone who loves the truth will want to know the truth!
There is a difference between a piece of fiction that may 'reflect truth' or be inspiring and between a real and valid account of actual spiritual experiences and teachings;
QS: Believing that "Jesus saves" or "Don Juan lives" or "Castaneda lied"... all these things are irrelevant, BECAUSE they are only beliefs - and in the big picture, "belief" is as worthless as tits on a bull.
Not exactly... there is a big difference between believing in something that is actually true in universe reality and believing in something that was made up in someone's imagination.
You are seeing this from a limited perspective.
You have an experience...like breathing air, it feels a certain way to you. One day you read a book about breathing air...maybe a yoga book that says to hold the side of your hand over and closing your left nostril and breathe that way. You try it and have an experience. Maybe you get more energy and alertness like the author told you that you would. So you incorpprate this into your life and maybe begin your day this way. Maybe one day you want to find more exercises like this one so you search the net. You search for the author. One of the links is a site that says the author was a liar, a womanizer and a con-man. What did any of that have to do with your experience of energy and alertness?
Maybe you are stupid like me and ask them what it has to do with anything...and they reply that you are stupid and taken in by a cult and only they can save you. You scratch your head some more and ask again what any of that has to do with anything.
It is nice to know that I am not the only one who doesn't give a **** about the details of CCs life. There is something to explore you black and white thinkers...why is it that it is comforting to find out one isn't the only one to think something? Castaneda gave some information. Yeah, sure alot of it was ****...however, there were some gems. Upright christian soldiers dont have a monopoly on gems of knowledge...sometimes womanizing, intense misfits have some too. The point is obtaining the gem for yourself and being able to leave the rest without getting caught up in the bs. People use those gems to improve their lives. You sound like someone who wouldnt pick up the hope diamond if it was in the dirt. Others feel who cares if it is in the dirt...its the hope diamond! You sound like someone chastising people because they have dirt on their hands...however, I can wash my hands.
I absolutely get your point but I disagree with your conclusion that it 'doesn't matter' or its irrelevant.
It matters simply because there is a difference between truth and fantasy, and anyone who loves the truth will want to know the truth!
There is a difference between a piece of fiction that may 'reflect truth' or be inspiring and between a real and valid account of actual spiritual experiences and teachings;
QS: Believing that "Jesus saves" or "Don Juan lives" or "Castaneda lied"... all these things are irrelevant, BECAUSE they are only beliefs - and in the big picture, "belief" is as worthless as tits on a bull.
Not exactly... there is a big difference between believing in something that is actually true in universe reality and believing in something that was made up in someone's imagination.
You are seeing this from a limited perspective.
You have an experience...like breathing air, it feels a certain way to you. One day you read a book about breathing air...maybe a yoga book that says to hold the side of your hand over and closing your left nostril and breathe that way. You try it and have an experience. Maybe you get more energy and alertness like the author told you that you would. So you incorpprate this into your life and maybe begin your day this way. Maybe one day you want to find more exercises like this one so you search the net. You search for the author. One of the links is a site that says the author was a liar, a womanizer and a con-man. What did any of that have to do with your experience of energy and alertness?
Maybe you are stupid like me and ask them what it has to do with anything...and they reply that you are stupid and taken in by a cult and only they can save you. You scratch your head some more and ask again what any of that has to do with anything.
It is nice to know that I am not the only one who doesn't give a **** about the details of CCs life. There is something to explore you black and white thinkers...why is it that it is comforting to find out one isn't the only one to think something? Castaneda gave some information. Yeah, sure alot of it was ****...however, there were some gems. Upright christian soldiers dont have a monopoly on gems of knowledge...sometimes womanizing, intense misfits have some too. The point is obtaining the gem for yourself and being able to leave the rest without getting caught up in the bs. People use those gems to improve their lives. You sound like someone who wouldnt pick up the hope diamond if it was in the dirt. Others feel who cares if it is in the dirt...its the hope diamond! You sound like someone chastising people because they have dirt on their hands...however, I can wash my hands.