09-11-2013, 12:00 AM
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rosygyro wrote:
I have seen several people take their opportunity to die like it was the only chance they would ever have..
I have seen people be teased by the OTHER, as if to miss your chance to die is to spend a few bittersweet years living but not ALIVE becuase the chance has been missed.
the fleeting moment of chance exists around potential times/places of your death as well as simply opportunities for change during life and so to Aim to die is to clear the path to that point, if it is in line with intelligent co-operation for the total habitual position of man it will shift into an archetype and becon observation by the dreamers of man etc etc.. etc..
the path of the arrow once the target is set is irrefutable.
... jeez.. fluidity is not the be all and end all..
we dedicate our lives, if they include folly then whoop
Probably some of the most perceptive insight ive seen posted on these forums. It is not, however a surprise. I had a funny...thing, a few months ago. The golden spruce and white raven of Haida Gwaii. A debate between sea, sky, raven and tree. And Rosygyro and i believe Sacateca. Sacateca was the man who cut it down, ending the tradition of worship, but forcing an energetic...sharpening of the peoples sense of sharpness. A strange debate, as to the meaning of the act, between yourself and sacateca:
On the night of January 20, 1997, Grant Hadwin, then forty-seven, stripped off his clothes and plunged into the Yakoun River, towing a chainsaw behind him. The river was swift and the water was cold, but this was no problem for Hadwin, a self-described "extreme swimmer" who had alarmed local police in Whitehorse, Yukon, earlier that winter by spending a quarter of an hour in the Yukon River when the air temperature was thirty-five degrees below zero.
I didn't enjoy butchering, this magnificent old plant, but you apparently need a message and wake-up call, that even a university trained professional, should be able to understand. . . . I mean this action, to be an expression, of my rage and hatred, towards university trained professionals and their extremist supporters, whose ideas, ethics, denials, part truths, attitudes, etc., appear to be responsible, for most of the abominations, towards amateur life on this planet.
I did not record this exchange, but i can quote your posting above well enough, how the act was not a wake up call, but rather i can replace a few words
I suppose i could outline the PHILOSOPHY behind the need to sacrifice (Golden spruce)..
put simply (Golden Spruce) was the (earth root herald), and as the dragon wolf his incarnation was part of the final days of the embodyment of Atl's resitence.
The infinite journey for (emmisary) was never going to be a bolt of blue lightning darting off into potential energy till the total material inhabitation of the universe.
(emissary) corporeal template has already re-incarnated counteless times on countless worlds and will not do so on this world ever again..
he is locked in the deep earth, thrown back on himself by the force of universal transmutation!
His journey is still infinite... in fact more readily infinite than any energy form made by those who lost the batlle versus old age and death..
Theun like many honourable men CHOSE to die without resisting it, infact even embracing his death as an act of intent...
A year, the albino raven aspect, after the loss of the earth root, choose to end its journey by flying into a transformer, with intent, into energy. The end of the things that dreamed with me since i was a child, but only learned actually existed, one year ago.
So the debate, was this. To one (sacateca) it was an act of...awakening. The idolized tree, or dead fish, needs to end so that the people awaken to the spirit of the thing, suffering, a symbolic death for a spiritual awakening. To rosy, it was a transformation back to the root energy, as i understood it, with intent...choosen...by the thing itself...and to be clear, i did not fully understand as it was not my pereptual filter. To the Raven, and tree, it simply was an inverting circle that is infinity and a progression. Imposed, but accepted...2 moments of death. This is what the white raven brought, made relevant by using the names of people here, to showa path in intent, and not just a journey of avoidance.
So, again, good post. Ms, Shamanka, Rosy, It was waiting to emerge, so that the other could rise...such a folly! On the wings of dragon wolf raven trees. lol lol.
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rosygyro wrote:
I have seen several people take their opportunity to die like it was the only chance they would ever have..
I have seen people be teased by the OTHER, as if to miss your chance to die is to spend a few bittersweet years living but not ALIVE becuase the chance has been missed.
the fleeting moment of chance exists around potential times/places of your death as well as simply opportunities for change during life and so to Aim to die is to clear the path to that point, if it is in line with intelligent co-operation for the total habitual position of man it will shift into an archetype and becon observation by the dreamers of man etc etc.. etc..
the path of the arrow once the target is set is irrefutable.
... jeez.. fluidity is not the be all and end all..
we dedicate our lives, if they include folly then whoop
Probably some of the most perceptive insight ive seen posted on these forums. It is not, however a surprise. I had a funny...thing, a few months ago. The golden spruce and white raven of Haida Gwaii. A debate between sea, sky, raven and tree. And Rosygyro and i believe Sacateca. Sacateca was the man who cut it down, ending the tradition of worship, but forcing an energetic...sharpening of the peoples sense of sharpness. A strange debate, as to the meaning of the act, between yourself and sacateca:
On the night of January 20, 1997, Grant Hadwin, then forty-seven, stripped off his clothes and plunged into the Yakoun River, towing a chainsaw behind him. The river was swift and the water was cold, but this was no problem for Hadwin, a self-described "extreme swimmer" who had alarmed local police in Whitehorse, Yukon, earlier that winter by spending a quarter of an hour in the Yukon River when the air temperature was thirty-five degrees below zero.
I didn't enjoy butchering, this magnificent old plant, but you apparently need a message and wake-up call, that even a university trained professional, should be able to understand. . . . I mean this action, to be an expression, of my rage and hatred, towards university trained professionals and their extremist supporters, whose ideas, ethics, denials, part truths, attitudes, etc., appear to be responsible, for most of the abominations, towards amateur life on this planet.
I did not record this exchange, but i can quote your posting above well enough, how the act was not a wake up call, but rather i can replace a few words
I suppose i could outline the PHILOSOPHY behind the need to sacrifice (Golden spruce)..
put simply (Golden Spruce) was the (earth root herald), and as the dragon wolf his incarnation was part of the final days of the embodyment of Atl's resitence.
The infinite journey for (emmisary) was never going to be a bolt of blue lightning darting off into potential energy till the total material inhabitation of the universe.
(emissary) corporeal template has already re-incarnated counteless times on countless worlds and will not do so on this world ever again..
he is locked in the deep earth, thrown back on himself by the force of universal transmutation!
His journey is still infinite... in fact more readily infinite than any energy form made by those who lost the batlle versus old age and death..
Theun like many honourable men CHOSE to die without resisting it, infact even embracing his death as an act of intent...
A year, the albino raven aspect, after the loss of the earth root, choose to end its journey by flying into a transformer, with intent, into energy. The end of the things that dreamed with me since i was a child, but only learned actually existed, one year ago.
So the debate, was this. To one (sacateca) it was an act of...awakening. The idolized tree, or dead fish, needs to end so that the people awaken to the spirit of the thing, suffering, a symbolic death for a spiritual awakening. To rosy, it was a transformation back to the root energy, as i understood it, with intent...choosen...by the thing itself...and to be clear, i did not fully understand as it was not my pereptual filter. To the Raven, and tree, it simply was an inverting circle that is infinity and a progression. Imposed, but accepted...2 moments of death. This is what the white raven brought, made relevant by using the names of people here, to showa path in intent, and not just a journey of avoidance.
So, again, good post. Ms, Shamanka, Rosy, It was waiting to emerge, so that the other could rise...such a folly! On the wings of dragon wolf raven trees. lol lol.
~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~ ~v~
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