12-03-2017, 12:00 AM
rosygyro wrote:
I think with things like addiction it is the same as power plants or poisons.
these things have a unilateral effect on all people who imbibe them.
as such you are binding yourself in addiction to millions of other people through
the quality of the substance you share.
because the basic change of the human assemblage is a gargantuan challenge
the binding also atatches you to a more generic and less personal form of assemblage fixation
meaning you are in a philosophical battle on behalf of millions of people by default.
so even for a powerfull sorcerer addictive chemicals will still be very advanced practice to control.
if you simply choose to not be addicted then it is an immediate failing in terms of intelligent co-operation.
I mysef have a horrible tobacco atatchment and could only limit it by finding a job within which i couldnt smoke.
as millions of people also share that situation.
so in summary- you take your addiction and the recognition that million share it.. and then you take another quality millions of people share and choose to cultivate that quality so as to shift focus..
NOT simply try to remove yourself from the influence of the drug.
not saying its the magical cure.. but it is a practical set of steps if you want to slide out of the frame into another.
I don't have a lot of professional credibility on addiction or rehabilitation issues, but I've been high before, so this is my two cents thrown in.
Mind altering substances aren't amazing because they alter your mind, they're amazing because they alter it predictably and repeatably. This definitely not true of every substance, but being drunk is just not that complicated. No matter where you are, no matter how lost you are, no matter where your mind is at or what state its in, you can always find your way back to drunk very quickly. This CAN BE tremendously healing and useful, but also not. I was lamenting in a different thread a few days ago about how American music videos somehow also became tequila commercials, for example. Before that it was cognac. And wtf is up with Starbucks anyway, I mean really? MERMAIDS?
I'll just let you unpack that for yourselves, but sometimes brand names are even stronger than the things they're selling.
And yes, it totally does put you on a wavelength that you are not alone on -- the darkness is populated, that's a fact. But so do the new Taylor Swift album, Game of Thrones, the Bible, and the Dr. Who Christmas Special that, on this lovely 2 December morning I'm sure everyone is really looking forward to.
The horrible truth is there are whales that want to swallow you. The even more horrible truth is that getting free is relatively easy and being swallowed isn't always so bad, but there I go again...
Let me just say I've noticed a general trend so far that most people here seem to think that anything that binds you to other people is A BAD THING, oh my god, freedom freedom freedom. But I've chosen which people I want to be in "a philosophical battle on behalf of", as rosy said it, and it's working out ok for me so far.
I think with things like addiction it is the same as power plants or poisons.
these things have a unilateral effect on all people who imbibe them.
as such you are binding yourself in addiction to millions of other people through
the quality of the substance you share.
because the basic change of the human assemblage is a gargantuan challenge
the binding also atatches you to a more generic and less personal form of assemblage fixation
meaning you are in a philosophical battle on behalf of millions of people by default.
so even for a powerfull sorcerer addictive chemicals will still be very advanced practice to control.
if you simply choose to not be addicted then it is an immediate failing in terms of intelligent co-operation.
I mysef have a horrible tobacco atatchment and could only limit it by finding a job within which i couldnt smoke.
as millions of people also share that situation.
so in summary- you take your addiction and the recognition that million share it.. and then you take another quality millions of people share and choose to cultivate that quality so as to shift focus..
NOT simply try to remove yourself from the influence of the drug.
not saying its the magical cure.. but it is a practical set of steps if you want to slide out of the frame into another.
I don't have a lot of professional credibility on addiction or rehabilitation issues, but I've been high before, so this is my two cents thrown in.
Mind altering substances aren't amazing because they alter your mind, they're amazing because they alter it predictably and repeatably. This definitely not true of every substance, but being drunk is just not that complicated. No matter where you are, no matter how lost you are, no matter where your mind is at or what state its in, you can always find your way back to drunk very quickly. This CAN BE tremendously healing and useful, but also not. I was lamenting in a different thread a few days ago about how American music videos somehow also became tequila commercials, for example. Before that it was cognac. And wtf is up with Starbucks anyway, I mean really? MERMAIDS?
I'll just let you unpack that for yourselves, but sometimes brand names are even stronger than the things they're selling.
And yes, it totally does put you on a wavelength that you are not alone on -- the darkness is populated, that's a fact. But so do the new Taylor Swift album, Game of Thrones, the Bible, and the Dr. Who Christmas Special that, on this lovely 2 December morning I'm sure everyone is really looking forward to.
The horrible truth is there are whales that want to swallow you. The even more horrible truth is that getting free is relatively easy and being swallowed isn't always so bad, but there I go again...
Let me just say I've noticed a general trend so far that most people here seem to think that anything that binds you to other people is A BAD THING, oh my god, freedom freedom freedom. But I've chosen which people I want to be in "a philosophical battle on behalf of", as rosy said it, and it's working out ok for me so far.

