11-25-2017, 12:00 AM
serloco wrote:The child is taught that, lets say, 1 out of 7 people get cancer int heir lifetime. Now the child believes this, and knows he is a human subject to the same fate. The child learns over time to not only intend his death, but to not intend his death as well. The child intends that he is a common human, intends that he could get cancer and intends not to as well. The child's intent gets split. Same with catching a cold. When people say a cold is going around the average man intends the possibility that he catch one. He subjects himself to the same blueprint of his fellow man. Never intending his choice in the matter. Never examining the other possibilities to intend.
this is a very good point. something splits in us... the child does not have the choice in intending death as this is something spoon-fed. However, it does not want to die and it does not want it's loved ones to die. And this is its wish, hope and dream it can become a conscious intending. If fueled and groomed it can become unbending intent.
But we are not given the tools to understand this can actually happen. And even while wishing and hoping, we undermine it by saying that it is not reasonable or a real thing that can actually happen - that is the spoon-fed part of us.
It seems to me that belief not all too powerful though. It is not the same thing to believe that one can fly - deranged individuals have in the past believed they can fly and jumped to their deaths. What is the difference between fully believing in something and actually it being so... that is an interesting question imo.
Do some people just try to blindly believe something (is that the same thing as erasing opposing beliefs that we were spoon-fed so there is no more contradiction?) and would actually jump to their death if they tried? or would they fly?
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P.S. For those coming a bit later into the discussion about will and intent. Here is where it actually began: unbending-intent-versus-being-stubborn- ... ml#p135273
P.P.S. CC's quotes on the topic of Will: https://willproject.org/history/biograp ... castaneda/
this is a very good point. something splits in us... the child does not have the choice in intending death as this is something spoon-fed. However, it does not want to die and it does not want it's loved ones to die. And this is its wish, hope and dream it can become a conscious intending. If fueled and groomed it can become unbending intent.
But we are not given the tools to understand this can actually happen. And even while wishing and hoping, we undermine it by saying that it is not reasonable or a real thing that can actually happen - that is the spoon-fed part of us.
It seems to me that belief not all too powerful though. It is not the same thing to believe that one can fly - deranged individuals have in the past believed they can fly and jumped to their deaths. What is the difference between fully believing in something and actually it being so... that is an interesting question imo.
Do some people just try to blindly believe something (is that the same thing as erasing opposing beliefs that we were spoon-fed so there is no more contradiction?) and would actually jump to their death if they tried? or would they fly?
.P.S. For those coming a bit later into the discussion about will and intent. Here is where it actually began: unbending-intent-versus-being-stubborn- ... ml#p135273
P.P.S. CC's quotes on the topic of Will: https://willproject.org/history/biograp ... castaneda/

