04-14-2011, 12:00 AM
Mt 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
Mt 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Mt 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Petros, "a detached stone or boulder," or a stone that might be thrown or easily moved.
Jesus calls Simon "Petros" after Simon/Peter gets a revelation from Above of who Jesus was. Then he said upon this Rock I will build my church.
athColics take this as evidence that the Apostle has th keys to heaven etc.
This is wrong. The Rock (singular) is made up of smaller stones which have been detached.
It is these smaller stones/revelations that the church is built up of. But it is all leading to the One Revelation, Petra, the Rock, Jesus Christ.
When Jesus said upon this rock he was speaking about the revelation that came down on Peter.
Something had come down on Peter as "clear as crystal."
Ge 28:10 And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran.
Ge 28:11 And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep.
Ge 28:12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
Ge 28:13 And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
Ge 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
Ge 28:15 And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of.
Ge 28:16 And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not.
Ge 28:17 And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.
Ge 28:18 And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it.
Here we see another story of Revelation or Something coming down from above, (which by the way is the definition of Grace; A gift, influx from the Divine or God or above the abyss.)
Why does it state that Jacob used the "stones" (plural) for his pillow and then set up the "Stone" (singular) that he had used for his pillows and set IT (singular) up for a pillar?
Here Jacob has a revelation that "The Lord is in this place and I knew it not." Knowing without having known my teacher used to say. That was his definition of Wisdom. That which comes down from above. In that he said "surely" the lord is in this place,.. It was again as "clear as crystal" to him.
Are we seeing a pattern here?
There is more.
Jesus said that everything he said and all of the workks he did he got from the Father. He also told us to "follow him", and the things I do you can do also because I go to the Father. He also said that if we saw him we had seen the Father. So, if Jesus is revealed to us, so is the Father.
Re 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Re 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
The book is called the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Not Revelations as it is sometimes named.
It begins with the sentence;
Re 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants ...
So was this book John's experience of who Jesus was being revealed to him?
Or was it Jesus' experience of who HE was being revealed to him (Jesus) and then in turn shared with both John and us?
Or was it both???
And if we are one with Jesus and the Father and the Son and the Spirit have made their "abode" in us, does it really matter???
Is not this the ONE Stone of Revelation we are building with the little stones???
Are we seeing a pattern here?
Bob
Mt 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Mt 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Petros, "a detached stone or boulder," or a stone that might be thrown or easily moved.
Jesus calls Simon "Petros" after Simon/Peter gets a revelation from Above of who Jesus was. Then he said upon this Rock I will build my church.
athColics take this as evidence that the Apostle has th keys to heaven etc.
This is wrong. The Rock (singular) is made up of smaller stones which have been detached.
It is these smaller stones/revelations that the church is built up of. But it is all leading to the One Revelation, Petra, the Rock, Jesus Christ.
When Jesus said upon this rock he was speaking about the revelation that came down on Peter.
Something had come down on Peter as "clear as crystal."
Ge 28:10 And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran.
Ge 28:11 And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep.
Ge 28:12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
Ge 28:13 And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
Ge 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
Ge 28:15 And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of.
Ge 28:16 And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not.
Ge 28:17 And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.
Ge 28:18 And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it.
Here we see another story of Revelation or Something coming down from above, (which by the way is the definition of Grace; A gift, influx from the Divine or God or above the abyss.)
Why does it state that Jacob used the "stones" (plural) for his pillow and then set up the "Stone" (singular) that he had used for his pillows and set IT (singular) up for a pillar?
Here Jacob has a revelation that "The Lord is in this place and I knew it not." Knowing without having known my teacher used to say. That was his definition of Wisdom. That which comes down from above. In that he said "surely" the lord is in this place,.. It was again as "clear as crystal" to him.
Are we seeing a pattern here?
There is more.
Jesus said that everything he said and all of the workks he did he got from the Father. He also told us to "follow him", and the things I do you can do also because I go to the Father. He also said that if we saw him we had seen the Father. So, if Jesus is revealed to us, so is the Father.
Re 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Re 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
The book is called the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Not Revelations as it is sometimes named.
It begins with the sentence;
Re 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants ...
So was this book John's experience of who Jesus was being revealed to him?
Or was it Jesus' experience of who HE was being revealed to him (Jesus) and then in turn shared with both John and us?
Or was it both???
And if we are one with Jesus and the Father and the Son and the Spirit have made their "abode" in us, does it really matter???
Is not this the ONE Stone of Revelation we are building with the little stones???
Are we seeing a pattern here?
Bob