05-17-2011, 12:00 AM
Hi Ninth,
""I had a dream in my late teen years with these same themes seen in the promises the one Baptism. Quite a symbolic and healing dream that can be easily remembered till now. In this technic colour dream, I was a dove that flew among the other doves, through the clouds and onto the path of a brilliant rainbow. With all the symbolism found in Baptism I just realised of resent the "self" found in scripture. ""
Could you re-word that? It looks important but I am not understanding it all .."resent the self???"..."dream that can easily remembered till now???"
Joseph wore the coat of many colors, this relates to the rainbow, but also to being chosen to be a disciple. There is one teacher, Jesus, and we are all his disciples. This is the "inheritance." The coat is a sign in the ancient Hebrew culture of the passing on of the inheritance. The N.T. says we are "fellow heirs" with Christ. Sons of God.
Joseph was a dreamer and an interpreter of dreams, but he said that God gave the interpretations of the dreams. God also gave the dreams.
1ki 19:19
So he departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him.
1ki 19:20
And he left the oxen, and ran after Elijah, and said, Let me, I pray thee, kiss my father and my mother, and then I will follow thee. And he said unto him, Go back again: for what have I done to thee?
1ki 19:21
And he returned back from him, and took a yoke of oxen, and slew them, and boiled their flesh with the instruments of the oxen, and gave unto the people, and they did eat. Then he arose, and went after Elijah, and ministered unto him.
2ki 2:9
And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.
2ki 2:10
And he said, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.
2ki 2:11
And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
2ki 2:12
And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
2ki 2:13
He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;
2ki 2:14
And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over.
2ki 2:15
And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him.
Elisha asked for and recieved a "double portion" of the Spirit that was on Elijah, his teacher. This also is a sign of inheritance as if there are multiple sons, the inheritance passes to the one (usually the firstborn) son to carry the inheritance as a double portion. It is always a suprise in the bible when the second born gets this birhtright and blessing.
Joseph was not the firstborn but he recieved it. He was firstborn of the second wife. Ephraim (Understanding, second born of Joseph) recieved it when by all appearances it should have gone to Manassah (Wisdom knowing without having known) the firstborn.
This is because we have to be born of the spirit to see or enter the kingdom. Born twice.
Joh 3:4
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
So, water and spirit (air) are prerequisites to seeing and entering the Kingdom. These are two baptisms. Full immersion into second attention with hints of the third attention if we hold to the Truth. We are living in two worlds at once, but where are the messages coming from?
And actually we always have been living in two worlds at once. We just don't see that until our awareness begins to open up.
It happens a little at a time and then all at once as Don Juan puts it. Stopping the world is the flood of Noah.
The first part of the Flood reflects back to us the raven (air). The second part reflects back to us the dove (air) along with with the promises of inheritance as sons of God.
Many never go past the first aspect. This is the sorcerer's world.
Elijah went past both of these and was caught up in a whirlwind and fire.
Jesus was caught up to the Father.
Paul was caught up to the third heaven.
This is our inheritance.
Joh 12:32
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Your "technicolor dreams" may be signs of your coming to an awareness of your inheritance. Your baptism of air. Especially as you flew as a dove.
Joseph was a dreamer and an interpreter of dreams, but even he asked God for the interpretations and gave Him the credit. Ask and the answers will come.
""I had a dream in my late teen years with these same themes seen in the promises the one Baptism. Quite a symbolic and healing dream that can be easily remembered till now. In this technic colour dream, I was a dove that flew among the other doves, through the clouds and onto the path of a brilliant rainbow. With all the symbolism found in Baptism I just realised of resent the "self" found in scripture. ""
Could you re-word that? It looks important but I am not understanding it all .."resent the self???"..."dream that can easily remembered till now???"
Joseph wore the coat of many colors, this relates to the rainbow, but also to being chosen to be a disciple. There is one teacher, Jesus, and we are all his disciples. This is the "inheritance." The coat is a sign in the ancient Hebrew culture of the passing on of the inheritance. The N.T. says we are "fellow heirs" with Christ. Sons of God.
Joseph was a dreamer and an interpreter of dreams, but he said that God gave the interpretations of the dreams. God also gave the dreams.
1ki 19:19
So he departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him.
1ki 19:20
And he left the oxen, and ran after Elijah, and said, Let me, I pray thee, kiss my father and my mother, and then I will follow thee. And he said unto him, Go back again: for what have I done to thee?
1ki 19:21
And he returned back from him, and took a yoke of oxen, and slew them, and boiled their flesh with the instruments of the oxen, and gave unto the people, and they did eat. Then he arose, and went after Elijah, and ministered unto him.
2ki 2:9
And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.
2ki 2:10
And he said, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.
2ki 2:11
And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
2ki 2:12
And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
2ki 2:13
He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;
2ki 2:14
And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over.
2ki 2:15
And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him.
Elisha asked for and recieved a "double portion" of the Spirit that was on Elijah, his teacher. This also is a sign of inheritance as if there are multiple sons, the inheritance passes to the one (usually the firstborn) son to carry the inheritance as a double portion. It is always a suprise in the bible when the second born gets this birhtright and blessing.
Joseph was not the firstborn but he recieved it. He was firstborn of the second wife. Ephraim (Understanding, second born of Joseph) recieved it when by all appearances it should have gone to Manassah (Wisdom knowing without having known) the firstborn.
This is because we have to be born of the spirit to see or enter the kingdom. Born twice.
Joh 3:4
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
So, water and spirit (air) are prerequisites to seeing and entering the Kingdom. These are two baptisms. Full immersion into second attention with hints of the third attention if we hold to the Truth. We are living in two worlds at once, but where are the messages coming from?
And actually we always have been living in two worlds at once. We just don't see that until our awareness begins to open up.
It happens a little at a time and then all at once as Don Juan puts it. Stopping the world is the flood of Noah.
The first part of the Flood reflects back to us the raven (air). The second part reflects back to us the dove (air) along with with the promises of inheritance as sons of God.
Many never go past the first aspect. This is the sorcerer's world.
Elijah went past both of these and was caught up in a whirlwind and fire.
Jesus was caught up to the Father.
Paul was caught up to the third heaven.
This is our inheritance.
Joh 12:32
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Your "technicolor dreams" may be signs of your coming to an awareness of your inheritance. Your baptism of air. Especially as you flew as a dove.
Joseph was a dreamer and an interpreter of dreams, but even he asked God for the interpretations and gave Him the credit. Ask and the answers will come.