04-03-2011, 12:00 AM
lex icon wrote:I came across this the other day from a post from SHM The art of Dreaming as described by Carlos Castaneda. It seems to relate to my dream.
The only thing that makes you think you are yourself is the form. Once it leaves, you are nothing. A warrior without form begins to see an eye. The formless warrior uses that eye to start dreaming . If you don't have a form, you don't have to go to sleep to do dreaming . The eye in front of you pulls you every time you want to go.
There it was, “If you don't have a form, you don't have to go to sleep to do dreaming.” I can’t say I have seen an “eye” unless it was that dot. But I did not go to sleep as far as I can tell.
In the final analysis every dreamer is different. There are, however, general states.
Restful vigil is the preliminary state, a state in which the senses become dormant and yet one is aware.
The second state is dynamic vigil. In this state one is left looking at a scene, a tableau of sorts, which is static. One sees a three-dimensional picture, a frozen bit of something--a landscape, a street, a house, a person, a face, anything.
The third state is passive witnessing. In it the dreamer is no longer viewing a frozen bit of the world but is observing, eye-witnessing, an event as it occurs. It is as if the primacy of the visual and auditory senses makes this state of dreaming mainly an affair of the eyes and ears.
The fourth state is the one in which you are drawn to act. In it one is compelled to enterprise, to take steps, to make the most of one's time. This state is called dynamic initiative.
“One sees a three-dimensional picture, a frozen bit of something--a landscape, a street, a house, a person, a face, anything." This seems to relate the page with words on it that began to dissolve.Yes, I do this quite often myself, I call it dreaming awake. I am a better dreamer awake then sleeping currently. It means though that the first attention remains relatively strong, where as in sleep dreaming it will be subdued. So dreaming awake is as I see it is a balance, as you yourself felt when your habit of putting shoes back on...first attention awareness, began to dissipate the dream experience. You have to balance both awareness's (attentions) to keep the dream going. Its not hard to do at first, like for the first minute the dream vision is strong, but over time the wakign attention may start to intervene. I think its just the waking attention is not used to sharing, lol. In practice though it will balance if we intend it. This means we basically care about neither attention to any degree so that they both can coexist harmoniously. So then its a third attention in which we stabilize, but its not like we should care more abotu this attention either. Equilibrium has to be maintained, so that means excitation has no place, which I see you already know, as you were commenting how the excitation of needing to put your shoes on (a first attention desire) is what you see as not to do in future, I agree
The only thing that makes you think you are yourself is the form. Once it leaves, you are nothing. A warrior without form begins to see an eye. The formless warrior uses that eye to start dreaming . If you don't have a form, you don't have to go to sleep to do dreaming . The eye in front of you pulls you every time you want to go.
There it was, “If you don't have a form, you don't have to go to sleep to do dreaming.” I can’t say I have seen an “eye” unless it was that dot. But I did not go to sleep as far as I can tell.
In the final analysis every dreamer is different. There are, however, general states.
Restful vigil is the preliminary state, a state in which the senses become dormant and yet one is aware.
The second state is dynamic vigil. In this state one is left looking at a scene, a tableau of sorts, which is static. One sees a three-dimensional picture, a frozen bit of something--a landscape, a street, a house, a person, a face, anything.
The third state is passive witnessing. In it the dreamer is no longer viewing a frozen bit of the world but is observing, eye-witnessing, an event as it occurs. It is as if the primacy of the visual and auditory senses makes this state of dreaming mainly an affair of the eyes and ears.
The fourth state is the one in which you are drawn to act. In it one is compelled to enterprise, to take steps, to make the most of one's time. This state is called dynamic initiative.
“One sees a three-dimensional picture, a frozen bit of something--a landscape, a street, a house, a person, a face, anything." This seems to relate the page with words on it that began to dissolve.Yes, I do this quite often myself, I call it dreaming awake. I am a better dreamer awake then sleeping currently. It means though that the first attention remains relatively strong, where as in sleep dreaming it will be subdued. So dreaming awake is as I see it is a balance, as you yourself felt when your habit of putting shoes back on...first attention awareness, began to dissipate the dream experience. You have to balance both awareness's (attentions) to keep the dream going. Its not hard to do at first, like for the first minute the dream vision is strong, but over time the wakign attention may start to intervene. I think its just the waking attention is not used to sharing, lol. In practice though it will balance if we intend it. This means we basically care about neither attention to any degree so that they both can coexist harmoniously. So then its a third attention in which we stabilize, but its not like we should care more abotu this attention either. Equilibrium has to be maintained, so that means excitation has no place, which I see you already know, as you were commenting how the excitation of needing to put your shoes on (a first attention desire) is what you see as not to do in future, I agree