10-28-2010, 12:00 AM
Mornings Son wrote:
This night:
1) traveling in Sweden saw a huge alternative community - It did not look alternative though
2) Was meeting in a limestone with Lunoor(? - not sure how you feel in dreaming) There was two others, but I did not get a clear feeling of them. We talked lively about 'What do we need to do to move on?'. I was suggesting that we found each other and all put a rights hands together, I would be a sort of uniting and creating a dream band between us. What would the impact be? Would it be links us up very much - for better and worse? Lunoor was suggesting that we walked in the desert in the night to fins a place of power and watch the moon and let power stream through us as we all so experiences being together. What desert? Why do it? For me there still is the unresolved question of purpose.
Strangely enough I did intended to let go of past and healing the wound and again I had a dream relating to Raven Sky. hmmmm Are we to be dream group of healers??
Anybody dreamed of purpose for the group?
Hi MS!
As to your comment in my Dreaming folder, I'll give you my thoughts.
First, why I have not commented is that I was waiting for Lunoor to comment as to if it was her you were Dreaming with. I don't recall it at all. Lunoor, do you remember this?
As to purpose, I've yet to come across anything in Dreaming to point out a purpose for us.
To perhaps break this down even further, may I ask what the purpose was to create this Ravens Sky Dreaming Group?
IS it to Dream as a group? IS it to tell of our own Dreams? IS is for us just to learn to Dream more consistently? IS it to improve our daily lives?
I have to take a step back here and make a comment I've made before: If we're not Dreaming consistently on a nightly basis, or even a couple nights a week, is it even possible to Dream as a group with really any purpose? Perhaps the purpose of the group is to assist each other in regular Dreaming? Perhaps we should take two steps back and figure out why some can't Dream on a regular basis? You mention above in regards to healing a wound. What's this, if I may ask? I've found that if I'm embroiled in some drama in my daily life my Dreaming goes to ****; even prior to that, if I wasn't impeccable in my daily life I couldn't Dream at all. Perhaps we should change this to a Stalking group; a group wherein we work on our daily tonal lives so that we CAN then begin to Dream consistently, then perhaps as a group? This of course leads to Morning Mist, which I thought was more of a Stalking group to tell of our daily doings and not-doings. Yet, that group even brings up issues with me, which of course tie into this Dreaming Group. How?
I see no commitment, as I mentioned to Turin in that one message on the board. If there's no commitment how can we figure out a purpose or a goal?? Or should I say, what good is purpose or goals without committment? Will anything ever get accomplished??
I did say several days ago I was going to take a step back from all of this to work on a project. Sure, but that doesn't mean I'm gone, or won't check this board several times a day. What's anyone posted since then? Not much. No Dreams. Just a comment here or there on MM. I'm not passing judgement on anyone, just making a statement of what I see.
Are we committed to this or not? Are we committed to taking the steps needed to Dream on a regular basis? Are we committed to clearing out the **** in our lives (over on Morning Mist) that allows us to Dream? I mean, how hard is it to post something here, daily, as opposed to posting something on the public board? Hey, I do it, and I know I do it. I'm doing my best to transition over to this more private section of the forum. But you've got to help me out here...
If we're not committed to at least doing SOMETHING, at a minimum posting here on a daily or every other day basis, what's the use having a group or a purpose or a goal??
Hey, if it's going to be a half-assed circle-jerk, that's fine by me. Just let me know, will ya'?
I'm keenly aware of two things that are important in my life: Communication and Committment.
A couple of examples: Since I've taken on this new project I communicate with this other several times a day. He's paying me big buck to work with him. I need to do my best and he needs to know what I'm doing. Makes for a great relationship when we communicate daily with each other.
Committment: Years ago Curtis Sensei tricked me into an exercise of committment. "Kris, you will perform 1,000 udi mawashi every day." Now this is a simple exercise, raise your arm out, swing it down to your thigh and up around. Then go the other way. Take 5 minutes and do 100 of these. Not so simple is it? Imagine doing 1,000 of these every day for three months. This is committment. I just do it. There's no thinking about it, there's no asking Buddha or don Juan or love and light or the path with heart to assist me. I just do it.
Keep in mind that I'm not asking anyone to drop and give me twenty push-ups on an hourly basis. If the committment is just one small thing, that's fine. Let's discusss it!
What are we going to do? Let me know, I'm fine either way....
Kris
This night:
1) traveling in Sweden saw a huge alternative community - It did not look alternative though
2) Was meeting in a limestone with Lunoor(? - not sure how you feel in dreaming) There was two others, but I did not get a clear feeling of them. We talked lively about 'What do we need to do to move on?'. I was suggesting that we found each other and all put a rights hands together, I would be a sort of uniting and creating a dream band between us. What would the impact be? Would it be links us up very much - for better and worse? Lunoor was suggesting that we walked in the desert in the night to fins a place of power and watch the moon and let power stream through us as we all so experiences being together. What desert? Why do it? For me there still is the unresolved question of purpose.
Strangely enough I did intended to let go of past and healing the wound and again I had a dream relating to Raven Sky. hmmmm Are we to be dream group of healers??
Anybody dreamed of purpose for the group?
Hi MS!
As to your comment in my Dreaming folder, I'll give you my thoughts.
First, why I have not commented is that I was waiting for Lunoor to comment as to if it was her you were Dreaming with. I don't recall it at all. Lunoor, do you remember this?
As to purpose, I've yet to come across anything in Dreaming to point out a purpose for us.
To perhaps break this down even further, may I ask what the purpose was to create this Ravens Sky Dreaming Group?
IS it to Dream as a group? IS it to tell of our own Dreams? IS is for us just to learn to Dream more consistently? IS it to improve our daily lives?
I have to take a step back here and make a comment I've made before: If we're not Dreaming consistently on a nightly basis, or even a couple nights a week, is it even possible to Dream as a group with really any purpose? Perhaps the purpose of the group is to assist each other in regular Dreaming? Perhaps we should take two steps back and figure out why some can't Dream on a regular basis? You mention above in regards to healing a wound. What's this, if I may ask? I've found that if I'm embroiled in some drama in my daily life my Dreaming goes to ****; even prior to that, if I wasn't impeccable in my daily life I couldn't Dream at all. Perhaps we should change this to a Stalking group; a group wherein we work on our daily tonal lives so that we CAN then begin to Dream consistently, then perhaps as a group? This of course leads to Morning Mist, which I thought was more of a Stalking group to tell of our daily doings and not-doings. Yet, that group even brings up issues with me, which of course tie into this Dreaming Group. How?
I see no commitment, as I mentioned to Turin in that one message on the board. If there's no commitment how can we figure out a purpose or a goal?? Or should I say, what good is purpose or goals without committment? Will anything ever get accomplished??
I did say several days ago I was going to take a step back from all of this to work on a project. Sure, but that doesn't mean I'm gone, or won't check this board several times a day. What's anyone posted since then? Not much. No Dreams. Just a comment here or there on MM. I'm not passing judgement on anyone, just making a statement of what I see.
Are we committed to this or not? Are we committed to taking the steps needed to Dream on a regular basis? Are we committed to clearing out the **** in our lives (over on Morning Mist) that allows us to Dream? I mean, how hard is it to post something here, daily, as opposed to posting something on the public board? Hey, I do it, and I know I do it. I'm doing my best to transition over to this more private section of the forum. But you've got to help me out here...
If we're not committed to at least doing SOMETHING, at a minimum posting here on a daily or every other day basis, what's the use having a group or a purpose or a goal??
Hey, if it's going to be a half-assed circle-jerk, that's fine by me. Just let me know, will ya'?
I'm keenly aware of two things that are important in my life: Communication and Committment.
A couple of examples: Since I've taken on this new project I communicate with this other several times a day. He's paying me big buck to work with him. I need to do my best and he needs to know what I'm doing. Makes for a great relationship when we communicate daily with each other.
Committment: Years ago Curtis Sensei tricked me into an exercise of committment. "Kris, you will perform 1,000 udi mawashi every day." Now this is a simple exercise, raise your arm out, swing it down to your thigh and up around. Then go the other way. Take 5 minutes and do 100 of these. Not so simple is it? Imagine doing 1,000 of these every day for three months. This is committment. I just do it. There's no thinking about it, there's no asking Buddha or don Juan or love and light or the path with heart to assist me. I just do it.
Keep in mind that I'm not asking anyone to drop and give me twenty push-ups on an hourly basis. If the committment is just one small thing, that's fine. Let's discusss it!
What are we going to do? Let me know, I'm fine either way....
Kris