05-27-2007, 12:00 AM
No Abe, he's right. You don't know or understand what corroboration really means. It would be one thing if the NDE reports had unusual elements to them that didn't keep popping up again in other unrelated reporters' accounts.
For instance, you don't see one post saying "..and then I was mashed up like potatoes and flipped into a frying pan.." or "..then I saw purple flying dragons with cheese shooting out of their asses" and the like. Instead, what you have with these reports are a few abstract cores that their events revolve around. For instance, you have in nearly all accounts a description of blackness followed by sun-like brilliant, yet non-harmful light. Then you have elements where the NDE sees people they knew to have died before them...consistently not seeing live people that would be fresh in their memories, but DEAD people. Strange for an hallucination wouldn't you say?
Further, some of those dead people were not known to them in waking life to have died. But are later confirmed dead by the NDE talking with people once they've been revived. In addition, you have many reports giving stunningly accurate accounts with meticulous details of events they witnessed while unconscious that they could not have known about without their five senses operational.
But still, you insist that there's nothing to these NDEs. Or that no one could understand the import of their meaning. I think it's accurate to say that you don't understand or rather, more accurately, that you don't want to understand them...
Yes, I would say that the latter is more accurate. And part of your not-wanting, is to convince others not to want to understand either via ridicule and/or insistent attempts to debunk the NDE phenomenon. In other words your message to others is "you are foolish if you take these account seriously". And people, for the most part, don't want to be labelled as foolish, so they fall in line and your goal is accomplished: To not examine, or to not feel social pressure to examine, your current crappy life and poor choices so that you don't have to go through the agony of change.
I know. Been there, done that.
"The Reailty Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."
For instance, you don't see one post saying "..and then I was mashed up like potatoes and flipped into a frying pan.." or "..then I saw purple flying dragons with cheese shooting out of their asses" and the like. Instead, what you have with these reports are a few abstract cores that their events revolve around. For instance, you have in nearly all accounts a description of blackness followed by sun-like brilliant, yet non-harmful light. Then you have elements where the NDE sees people they knew to have died before them...consistently not seeing live people that would be fresh in their memories, but DEAD people. Strange for an hallucination wouldn't you say?
Further, some of those dead people were not known to them in waking life to have died. But are later confirmed dead by the NDE talking with people once they've been revived. In addition, you have many reports giving stunningly accurate accounts with meticulous details of events they witnessed while unconscious that they could not have known about without their five senses operational.
But still, you insist that there's nothing to these NDEs. Or that no one could understand the import of their meaning. I think it's accurate to say that you don't understand or rather, more accurately, that you don't want to understand them...
Yes, I would say that the latter is more accurate. And part of your not-wanting, is to convince others not to want to understand either via ridicule and/or insistent attempts to debunk the NDE phenomenon. In other words your message to others is "you are foolish if you take these account seriously". And people, for the most part, don't want to be labelled as foolish, so they fall in line and your goal is accomplished: To not examine, or to not feel social pressure to examine, your current crappy life and poor choices so that you don't have to go through the agony of change.
I know. Been there, done that.
"The Reailty Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."