06-30-2007, 12:00 AM
"one should not put too much emphasis on any one belief system that reveals the truth. whatever path, or book, is used in order to become a seer is not the issue. my mother is jewish and my father is quaker."
But are your mother and /or father seers?
"i spent much of my youth reading eastern philosophy such as the Tao Te Ching due to my discontent with the monotheistic religions. when i discovered the teachings of Don Juan"
I think a lot of us have similar backgrounds. With me as a child my parents tried to raise me Catholic. But I found no answers. As a young man I found the Castaneda books and found the "how to" of opening the doors of the spirit. Lost in the unknown territory, I had to find more answers, and since there were no teachers of sorcery in my area, I took to reading books and found that the Qabalah had answers. That led me to Western Mysticism and the Bible and soon after to my teacher John Scudder who taught on those subjects. He was also a master of the Kundalini and a faith healer.
He, in his turn had also searched for years for both answers and for the "highest form of magic" as he put it.
He was directed by a budhist monk to the Qabala when he asked him which was the highest form of magic.
"i knew not to focus on the teachings but on the results. if one becomes obsessed with the teaching or belief system, they have become trapped. the teaching was merely a way to shift awareness, but you do not want to stay at that assemblage point forever."
The study of the Qabala which is really the deeper study of the Bible is a roadmap of awareness or assemblage points.
Four worlds, Ten sephiroth in each world, the God names, Archangels, angels, archdemons, demons and elementals assigned to each sephirah in each tree in each world.
To become trapped is to step into that without a roadmap.
To use that roadmap is to never come to an end of assemblage points to explore.
"the result is the ability to switch the assemblage point, to use intent. this cannot be done if we are trying to compare Jesus to Carlos; to determine who is the better nagual.....what is the better book of magic."
The Don Juan teachings were a better introduction for me because I would never had looked at the Bible for answers, so it would not have been usefull.
I would never compare Jesus to Carlos. There is no comparison. What I do is to point out that there are elements in the teachings of Don Juan that are also in the Bible. Methods of opening the doors of our perception.
After opening those doors a person is confronted by beings and realms that are completely unfamiliar. Some very good, some very bad. Without a roadmap or guide an initiate is lost.
The big difference between Don Juan and Jesus is that Jesus still teaches those who are lost. Don Juan does not.
"the way that can be spoken of is not the constant way (Lao-tzu)"
"I am the way, the truth and the life..
(Jesus Christ)"
Again, no comparison.
Bob
But are your mother and /or father seers?
"i spent much of my youth reading eastern philosophy such as the Tao Te Ching due to my discontent with the monotheistic religions. when i discovered the teachings of Don Juan"
I think a lot of us have similar backgrounds. With me as a child my parents tried to raise me Catholic. But I found no answers. As a young man I found the Castaneda books and found the "how to" of opening the doors of the spirit. Lost in the unknown territory, I had to find more answers, and since there were no teachers of sorcery in my area, I took to reading books and found that the Qabalah had answers. That led me to Western Mysticism and the Bible and soon after to my teacher John Scudder who taught on those subjects. He was also a master of the Kundalini and a faith healer.
He, in his turn had also searched for years for both answers and for the "highest form of magic" as he put it.
He was directed by a budhist monk to the Qabala when he asked him which was the highest form of magic.
"i knew not to focus on the teachings but on the results. if one becomes obsessed with the teaching or belief system, they have become trapped. the teaching was merely a way to shift awareness, but you do not want to stay at that assemblage point forever."
The study of the Qabala which is really the deeper study of the Bible is a roadmap of awareness or assemblage points.
Four worlds, Ten sephiroth in each world, the God names, Archangels, angels, archdemons, demons and elementals assigned to each sephirah in each tree in each world.
To become trapped is to step into that without a roadmap.
To use that roadmap is to never come to an end of assemblage points to explore.
"the result is the ability to switch the assemblage point, to use intent. this cannot be done if we are trying to compare Jesus to Carlos; to determine who is the better nagual.....what is the better book of magic."
The Don Juan teachings were a better introduction for me because I would never had looked at the Bible for answers, so it would not have been usefull.
I would never compare Jesus to Carlos. There is no comparison. What I do is to point out that there are elements in the teachings of Don Juan that are also in the Bible. Methods of opening the doors of our perception.
After opening those doors a person is confronted by beings and realms that are completely unfamiliar. Some very good, some very bad. Without a roadmap or guide an initiate is lost.
The big difference between Don Juan and Jesus is that Jesus still teaches those who are lost. Don Juan does not.
"the way that can be spoken of is not the constant way (Lao-tzu)"
"I am the way, the truth and the life..
(Jesus Christ)"
Again, no comparison.
Bob