11-18-2012, 12:00 AM
nemo wrote:trinsic1 wrote:OK I will keep trying. I have been looking at books to help me with this practice. One book that I found that is labeled under the lucid dreaming category is called "School of Out-of-Body Travel -1 - A practical guidebook" By Michael Raduga.
I didn't know out-of-body travel and lucid dreaming where the same thing and was wondering if anyone had any experience with determining the safety of using out of body techniques to create lucidity?
My explanation in this regard, trinsic1 (and then I will stop bugging you
is: Look at those things like radio stations on a frequency bandwidth. This reality is also a frequency, so as you gain in energy you naturally tune to another frequency. When you go to sleep and dream lucid, you are aligning the low frequency first attention with a frequency that is energetic. Which is similar to waking up in a neighborhood that has street gangs. Tuning into an astral experience is like going to another part of the city that has beings there that are more spiritually aligned with your raised energy. The divisions are energetic, not physical. As above so below, so to speak.
Warrior parties create energetic dreaming knots of energy, with their intent, so they are like their own gang. If you understand the city analogy, it is easier to see that you can go to parts of the city alone and be quite safe. So we are left with the same old words that DJ also said, we must become misers with our energy, to move the ap, it's not really all about dreaming.
You are not bugging me at all. Just trying to learn all I can. Thank you for the response. I understand now that its more safe than regular dreaming then it seems like.
When you talk about warrior parties are you talking about don juans group or current groups.
I understand that don juan had to have carolos use plants to quite his mind. What if you are struggling to quite your mind. Or what if you cant stay consistent with it? I seem to get lazy and dont want to do anything alot. I almost fee like picking up and leaving because I know its everything that is going on around me i have a life and it drains me of energy.. But im stuck cause i dont have money right now to make many changes like that.
I didn't know out-of-body travel and lucid dreaming where the same thing and was wondering if anyone had any experience with determining the safety of using out of body techniques to create lucidity?
My explanation in this regard, trinsic1 (and then I will stop bugging you
is: Look at those things like radio stations on a frequency bandwidth. This reality is also a frequency, so as you gain in energy you naturally tune to another frequency. When you go to sleep and dream lucid, you are aligning the low frequency first attention with a frequency that is energetic. Which is similar to waking up in a neighborhood that has street gangs. Tuning into an astral experience is like going to another part of the city that has beings there that are more spiritually aligned with your raised energy. The divisions are energetic, not physical. As above so below, so to speak.Warrior parties create energetic dreaming knots of energy, with their intent, so they are like their own gang. If you understand the city analogy, it is easier to see that you can go to parts of the city alone and be quite safe. So we are left with the same old words that DJ also said, we must become misers with our energy, to move the ap, it's not really all about dreaming.
You are not bugging me at all. Just trying to learn all I can. Thank you for the response. I understand now that its more safe than regular dreaming then it seems like.
When you talk about warrior parties are you talking about don juans group or current groups.
I understand that don juan had to have carolos use plants to quite his mind. What if you are struggling to quite your mind. Or what if you cant stay consistent with it? I seem to get lazy and dont want to do anything alot. I almost fee like picking up and leaving because I know its everything that is going on around me i have a life and it drains me of energy.. But im stuck cause i dont have money right now to make many changes like that.

