07-11-2008, 12:00 AM
In a book about Islam Tasavvuf and related proverbs , it says that in tasavvuf ,there are those who give importance to Esma(
accepting the path of saying a particular name of Allah a particular of time, at a particular time then telling his dreams to his sheih .It is
the sheih who deceides which name of Allah is to be said, how many times and so on. Zikir is the saying of a name of Allah. In this book it
mentions even 70,000 times of saying it. One has to do it in a place where he is not going to disturbed. In tasavvuf there are those who go thorough another
path called Melamet. They don't deny the importance of dreams but they think that most of the dreams are of projections of wishes of the
self and call such dreams "sleep ****".
I have friend who says he went to the dergah for 5 years.It is where they learn about their path. At a moment of our conversation I asked him
"What do you do?"(meaning "What do you do to move your asseblage point ?") He said, "I do zikir." At another
time he was talking about the dergah,as I understand they use a musical instrument called tef , at the same time they are doing zikir. He said that he
sees the same thing the sheih sees.What he described was like the left shift. He mentioned that not everyone sees the same thing(maybe some see nothing. ) He
is not attending the dergah anymore,I don't know the reason,but he said he is still using the tef and that he does not care what people think of him when
they see him playing it(they will think that he is an Islam extrimist ) and the zikir he mentioned as if it is the only thing of importance that could be done.
accepting the path of saying a particular name of Allah a particular of time, at a particular time then telling his dreams to his sheih .It is
the sheih who deceides which name of Allah is to be said, how many times and so on. Zikir is the saying of a name of Allah. In this book it
mentions even 70,000 times of saying it. One has to do it in a place where he is not going to disturbed. In tasavvuf there are those who go thorough another
path called Melamet. They don't deny the importance of dreams but they think that most of the dreams are of projections of wishes of the
self and call such dreams "sleep ****".
I have friend who says he went to the dergah for 5 years.It is where they learn about their path. At a moment of our conversation I asked him
"What do you do?"(meaning "What do you do to move your asseblage point ?") He said, "I do zikir." At another
time he was talking about the dergah,as I understand they use a musical instrument called tef , at the same time they are doing zikir. He said that he
sees the same thing the sheih sees.What he described was like the left shift. He mentioned that not everyone sees the same thing(maybe some see nothing. ) He
is not attending the dergah anymore,I don't know the reason,but he said he is still using the tef and that he does not care what people think of him when
they see him playing it(they will think that he is an Islam extrimist ) and the zikir he mentioned as if it is the only thing of importance that could be done.