04-08-2013, 12:00 AM
Friend, I've been biting my tongue for some time now but I see that it is time to express some opinions of mine.
Let's start from the beginning...You started a topic called "Cure for victims of CC books". By this very action, you show self-importance that it is your duty to "heal" us and simultaneously with the presumption that we are "sick". Have you actually read any of CC's books? If you did, you would know that Carlos Castaneda was an apprentice to a sorcerer called Don Juan Matus, and Don Juan taught Carlos specific techniques so that Carlos would become the next Nagual, the next sorcerer in the lineage. We find out through the books that Don Juan knew that Carlos would be the last of his direct lineage. In his books, Don Juan teaches Carlos many techniques in order to access the Nagual (the totality of himself, the energy body, the double). He teaches him techniques like stopping the internal dialogue, losing self-importance, erasing personal history, the way of the warrior, stalking behaviors (our tonal, our double and others) and dreaming (analyzing one's dreams by being consciously aware what we are dreaming when we are dreaming and meeting inorganic beings to teach us more about energy and the universe). He teaches Carlos these techniques so that Carlos can become impeccable, to save enough energy and learn not to indulge when he gains power. He teaches him these techniques so that he can access his nagual, learn to shift the assemblage points of himself or others at will, but more importantly, he teaches Carlos these things so that his task is complete, and so he can merge with infinity and burn from the fire within. The very fact of suggesting an alternative to death and that good/evil is man's creation...well that is HUGELY and obviously controversial!!
Through the books, especially in the book "The Art of Dreaming", we learn that Carlos is far from perfect and makes many mistakes. Then years later, we find out that Carlos died of natural causes and that some of his followers were found X days later dead and another person went missing entirely. Shortly after his death in fact, publishers specifically changed his book from non-fiction to fiction. Why? Because now there was a second controversy behind the author, that he lead his disciples to death. But if you read his books, you would know that he or DJ never suggested such a thing. Your self has to die, but metaphorically speaking.
Then there is the third point scholars try to point out as evidence to fraud. His books are inconsistent. One minute he says this and the next he says that. Again, if you actually read his books you would see that Carlos' perception goes through a complete roller coaster, a 360. He changes! By the end of his last book his writing style is much different but more importantly, we see that he actually learned from DJ. We see a progression on the path of knowledge.
Now, I personally don't care to get into an argument about this. But I will say, that, although I don't discount the power of imagination, Carlos wrote some things and introduced concepts that are totally mind blowing. To suggest someone can come up with this stuff out of the blue for a materialistic gain, to me, seems ridiculously far-fetched. Sure with enough peyote maybe, but come on.
My last point I wanted was that the human race cannot evolve collectively, it needs to evolve individually first. Religions group people together and put man at the center of the universe. They hide the truth, that we are luminous beings and that at the core halts this spiritual evolution. The scriptures are actually correct, they are historic documents. Especially one called the Enuma Elis (Sumeria). The story they depict was that a human-like race came to earth seeking gold, called the Annunaki. The Annunaki created Adamo, the first man to mine the gold for them, and when the task was done they left. They meant to destroy the humans (by not warning them about the flood) but one of the "Gods" warned Atra-Hasis (or also known as Noah). The great flood did actually occur, if you look at historic documents from all over the globe. The thing that makes the Enuma Elis a scary possiblity is that this clay tablet has never been altered by man, never copied and is one of the oldest scriptures on earth. When compared to the to the hebrew bible, they sync event to event, except that the hebrew bible took out the book of enoch, which covers the story of the Annunaki and how they taught man agriculture, pottery, etc...To assume man kind evolved and built a shovle one day is far-fetched, arrogant. We were taught. And so, what happened to the luminious beings who did not get locked up in bodies, who escaped? They, were perhaps the original seers, the old sorcerers.
The truth though, is that we were free, luminous beings before these "Gods" locked us up in our bodies. The human mold is sacred, don't get me wrong, but it is a mold and when we finally have command over the totality of ourselves, we free ourselves from this mold, and see infinity for what it really is.
So what is occult? It is simply a set of beliefs or practices that are outside the "norm" of society. And what is "norm"? Social conditioning of course. The Foreign Installation is in form of energy, and it is also our brain. And so any system of beliefs or practices that creates a line between body and spirit, in my tonal, is the same at the very core.
I don't mean to step on your toes but I don't think it is fair to go around quoting a bunch of things on a forum that most of it's members disagree with anyways. Please respect Nagual Lone Wolf even though he may not ask for it.
Let's start from the beginning...You started a topic called "Cure for victims of CC books". By this very action, you show self-importance that it is your duty to "heal" us and simultaneously with the presumption that we are "sick". Have you actually read any of CC's books? If you did, you would know that Carlos Castaneda was an apprentice to a sorcerer called Don Juan Matus, and Don Juan taught Carlos specific techniques so that Carlos would become the next Nagual, the next sorcerer in the lineage. We find out through the books that Don Juan knew that Carlos would be the last of his direct lineage. In his books, Don Juan teaches Carlos many techniques in order to access the Nagual (the totality of himself, the energy body, the double). He teaches him techniques like stopping the internal dialogue, losing self-importance, erasing personal history, the way of the warrior, stalking behaviors (our tonal, our double and others) and dreaming (analyzing one's dreams by being consciously aware what we are dreaming when we are dreaming and meeting inorganic beings to teach us more about energy and the universe). He teaches Carlos these techniques so that Carlos can become impeccable, to save enough energy and learn not to indulge when he gains power. He teaches him these techniques so that he can access his nagual, learn to shift the assemblage points of himself or others at will, but more importantly, he teaches Carlos these things so that his task is complete, and so he can merge with infinity and burn from the fire within. The very fact of suggesting an alternative to death and that good/evil is man's creation...well that is HUGELY and obviously controversial!!
Through the books, especially in the book "The Art of Dreaming", we learn that Carlos is far from perfect and makes many mistakes. Then years later, we find out that Carlos died of natural causes and that some of his followers were found X days later dead and another person went missing entirely. Shortly after his death in fact, publishers specifically changed his book from non-fiction to fiction. Why? Because now there was a second controversy behind the author, that he lead his disciples to death. But if you read his books, you would know that he or DJ never suggested such a thing. Your self has to die, but metaphorically speaking.
Then there is the third point scholars try to point out as evidence to fraud. His books are inconsistent. One minute he says this and the next he says that. Again, if you actually read his books you would see that Carlos' perception goes through a complete roller coaster, a 360. He changes! By the end of his last book his writing style is much different but more importantly, we see that he actually learned from DJ. We see a progression on the path of knowledge.
Now, I personally don't care to get into an argument about this. But I will say, that, although I don't discount the power of imagination, Carlos wrote some things and introduced concepts that are totally mind blowing. To suggest someone can come up with this stuff out of the blue for a materialistic gain, to me, seems ridiculously far-fetched. Sure with enough peyote maybe, but come on.
My last point I wanted was that the human race cannot evolve collectively, it needs to evolve individually first. Religions group people together and put man at the center of the universe. They hide the truth, that we are luminous beings and that at the core halts this spiritual evolution. The scriptures are actually correct, they are historic documents. Especially one called the Enuma Elis (Sumeria). The story they depict was that a human-like race came to earth seeking gold, called the Annunaki. The Annunaki created Adamo, the first man to mine the gold for them, and when the task was done they left. They meant to destroy the humans (by not warning them about the flood) but one of the "Gods" warned Atra-Hasis (or also known as Noah). The great flood did actually occur, if you look at historic documents from all over the globe. The thing that makes the Enuma Elis a scary possiblity is that this clay tablet has never been altered by man, never copied and is one of the oldest scriptures on earth. When compared to the to the hebrew bible, they sync event to event, except that the hebrew bible took out the book of enoch, which covers the story of the Annunaki and how they taught man agriculture, pottery, etc...To assume man kind evolved and built a shovle one day is far-fetched, arrogant. We were taught. And so, what happened to the luminious beings who did not get locked up in bodies, who escaped? They, were perhaps the original seers, the old sorcerers.
The truth though, is that we were free, luminous beings before these "Gods" locked us up in our bodies. The human mold is sacred, don't get me wrong, but it is a mold and when we finally have command over the totality of ourselves, we free ourselves from this mold, and see infinity for what it really is.
So what is occult? It is simply a set of beliefs or practices that are outside the "norm" of society. And what is "norm"? Social conditioning of course. The Foreign Installation is in form of energy, and it is also our brain. And so any system of beliefs or practices that creates a line between body and spirit, in my tonal, is the same at the very core.
I don't mean to step on your toes but I don't think it is fair to go around quoting a bunch of things on a forum that most of it's members disagree with anyways. Please respect Nagual Lone Wolf even though he may not ask for it.