03-14-2011, 12:00 AM
Gonzo wrote:
You do not see any of the techniques of the Naguals in Castaneda's books as stalking? Perhaps we ought to re-write the dictionary.
I would not have called them that, no. Nor is what people are doing and calling stalking reproductions of anything the players in Castaneda's books did. Never once did Genero or DJ engage in verbal battles and then tell CC he was wrong for reacting. So, short point, if you want me to believe your premise then you will have to make your case by clearly setting out your examples and expain your reason for calling them stalking rather than what they are. I am not sure how to say this politely, but if you are going to make something up you had better be prepared to lay it out...just saying.
What I did see in the techniques used to get CC to certain realizations was what I would call "propping." However, the "propping" they did looked nothing like: "when you do that it really means this." And, I don't believe that DJ or any of the others ever called CC "wrong."
Although, I suppose if you wanted to climb a cliff face with your tenticles for people (assuming you were able to do that) then I suppose you could call it whatever you wanted to...or telling people how you cannot get back to Ixtlan. Is that what you are doing??? I don't know, just guessing here, but maybe you are mixing up CC's books and internet lingo???? There is a term called "stalking" in internet lingo that more closely matches what it is your are doing and calling stalking...however, like stalking in real life, it usually involves a fair amount of obsession.
You do not see any of the techniques of the Naguals in Castaneda's books as stalking? Perhaps we ought to re-write the dictionary.
I would not have called them that, no. Nor is what people are doing and calling stalking reproductions of anything the players in Castaneda's books did. Never once did Genero or DJ engage in verbal battles and then tell CC he was wrong for reacting. So, short point, if you want me to believe your premise then you will have to make your case by clearly setting out your examples and expain your reason for calling them stalking rather than what they are. I am not sure how to say this politely, but if you are going to make something up you had better be prepared to lay it out...just saying.
What I did see in the techniques used to get CC to certain realizations was what I would call "propping." However, the "propping" they did looked nothing like: "when you do that it really means this." And, I don't believe that DJ or any of the others ever called CC "wrong."
Although, I suppose if you wanted to climb a cliff face with your tenticles for people (assuming you were able to do that) then I suppose you could call it whatever you wanted to...or telling people how you cannot get back to Ixtlan. Is that what you are doing??? I don't know, just guessing here, but maybe you are mixing up CC's books and internet lingo???? There is a term called "stalking" in internet lingo that more closely matches what it is your are doing and calling stalking...however, like stalking in real life, it usually involves a fair amount of obsession.