03-16-2011, 12:00 AM
Ok, I lied...I am back...but just for a moment and just because I am after an answer.
To respond to what has been said:
Someone posted numerous quotes from Castaneda’s books on stalking…for every one of those quotes, describe an interaction out of your real life that you call stalking that illustrates each of these points.
Someone stated, ‘who said it wasn’t working.’ Well, obviously I said it wasn’t, duh. But to acknowledge your point…your seeing the err of someone’s ways and feeling some compulsion or obsession to point it out to them is an indulgence in egoic self-importance...and so, ok, I get that you are, or have become, a nagual in your own mind. Ok, so describe a real life event in which you did something that you would call stalking where the other person, seeing what you did, would consider you a nagual.
Describe a real life event where you engaged in stalking another that you propped a shift in them.
You need to flesh out what it is that you are calling stalking. Someone said that when you disagree that is stalking. Another said that when you post that is stalking. Another said it is when you point out the err of someone’s ways and that is stalking. Another said it is when you magically become an old man and that transformation is stalking.
Do you have any idea just how many threads on how many forums I have come across on stalking and not once does anyone lay out clearly what it is? Someone said that they have said it as clearly as they can. I disagree. Lay it out so clearly that a person new to Castaneda could begin using it in their real life. Describe the action one should take. Describe the result one is after. Describe how that gets you power or makes you a nagual. Spend the time to make your case that point out the err of peoples’ ways is stalking. Stalking should be much easier to define than dreaming and should be made more easy by the nature of stalkers to notice details…so why is it that stalking gets numerous threads that never get to the heart of what stalking is?
It is about time to flesh this out.
To respond to what has been said:
Someone posted numerous quotes from Castaneda’s books on stalking…for every one of those quotes, describe an interaction out of your real life that you call stalking that illustrates each of these points.
Someone stated, ‘who said it wasn’t working.’ Well, obviously I said it wasn’t, duh. But to acknowledge your point…your seeing the err of someone’s ways and feeling some compulsion or obsession to point it out to them is an indulgence in egoic self-importance...and so, ok, I get that you are, or have become, a nagual in your own mind. Ok, so describe a real life event in which you did something that you would call stalking where the other person, seeing what you did, would consider you a nagual.
Describe a real life event where you engaged in stalking another that you propped a shift in them.
You need to flesh out what it is that you are calling stalking. Someone said that when you disagree that is stalking. Another said that when you post that is stalking. Another said it is when you point out the err of someone’s ways and that is stalking. Another said it is when you magically become an old man and that transformation is stalking.
Do you have any idea just how many threads on how many forums I have come across on stalking and not once does anyone lay out clearly what it is? Someone said that they have said it as clearly as they can. I disagree. Lay it out so clearly that a person new to Castaneda could begin using it in their real life. Describe the action one should take. Describe the result one is after. Describe how that gets you power or makes you a nagual. Spend the time to make your case that point out the err of peoples’ ways is stalking. Stalking should be much easier to define than dreaming and should be made more easy by the nature of stalkers to notice details…so why is it that stalking gets numerous threads that never get to the heart of what stalking is?
It is about time to flesh this out.