03-25-2011, 12:02 AM
Sedna wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
True shamans had a practical use for entheogens, which had nothing to do with their own self-aggrandizement, another point missed by many, those who wish to be recognized and acknowledged as some spiritually achieved, extraordinary person.
So. In my opinion, the whole business of expanded powers, extraordinary abilities, "sorcery", and so on are essentially cons. The problem is the real goal of don Juan's teachings is far too simple and folk need to be tricked into going for it. So they are seduced into thinking about power, and being powerful, and more powerful than their peers. Eventually, perhaps, they re-read "Tales of Power" and the phrase that the goal is to reach the totality of self...NOT to be a super-powerful Nagual.
Gonzo,
I don't know what to say here, however, it makes sense that they are focused on power, they have none. They don't know they don't want a boyfriend and so cannot act impeccably; they can't make a relationship work with an in-law; they have to painstakingly sort through whether they are being conned or not, in each of those scense there is no power. It is almost like their brains are running in slow-motion and they are missing most of the details. You are perhaps not moving as slow as they are and are perhaps seeing more of the details. But they are focused so intently on power because that is what they need to survive. Don't mistake their quest for power to mean anything other than they don't have any. In another context it is the same as freedom is for slaves; power is for people who don't have any. You sure do make a lot of judgments Sedna. Self-important you are. But I will remind the forum, this is coming from someone who is used to creating multiple alters, even being a different gender, and showing up on forums with what Gonzo calls a con. How's that working for you? I say that, cause you used to like to say that a lot. So when's the NLP going to come in Sedna? When are you going to bring that out of your bag of tricks?
You show up on a forum with a past that will not die. You give yourself away with old habitual posting habits. Fwiw. You attempt to discredit everyone on the forum, malign them that they are not stalkers or sorcerers. And you offer to teach. All the earmarkings of forestwolf/river. No one here aside from Gonzo is going to take you seriously. You can always dupe your famous mark, but not the rest of the audience.
So now you show up here. How's that working for you. What is your intent? Because your intent isn't stalking examples. You know good and well, they were stalking examples. Because you know what stalking is. And you also know what it is not. You have been being very slick and stalking everyone in this forum, the whole time. And you will continue to stalk because you are obsessive.
Gonzo wrote:
True shamans had a practical use for entheogens, which had nothing to do with their own self-aggrandizement, another point missed by many, those who wish to be recognized and acknowledged as some spiritually achieved, extraordinary person.
So. In my opinion, the whole business of expanded powers, extraordinary abilities, "sorcery", and so on are essentially cons. The problem is the real goal of don Juan's teachings is far too simple and folk need to be tricked into going for it. So they are seduced into thinking about power, and being powerful, and more powerful than their peers. Eventually, perhaps, they re-read "Tales of Power" and the phrase that the goal is to reach the totality of self...NOT to be a super-powerful Nagual.
Gonzo,
I don't know what to say here, however, it makes sense that they are focused on power, they have none. They don't know they don't want a boyfriend and so cannot act impeccably; they can't make a relationship work with an in-law; they have to painstakingly sort through whether they are being conned or not, in each of those scense there is no power. It is almost like their brains are running in slow-motion and they are missing most of the details. You are perhaps not moving as slow as they are and are perhaps seeing more of the details. But they are focused so intently on power because that is what they need to survive. Don't mistake their quest for power to mean anything other than they don't have any. In another context it is the same as freedom is for slaves; power is for people who don't have any. You sure do make a lot of judgments Sedna. Self-important you are. But I will remind the forum, this is coming from someone who is used to creating multiple alters, even being a different gender, and showing up on forums with what Gonzo calls a con. How's that working for you? I say that, cause you used to like to say that a lot. So when's the NLP going to come in Sedna? When are you going to bring that out of your bag of tricks?
You show up on a forum with a past that will not die. You give yourself away with old habitual posting habits. Fwiw. You attempt to discredit everyone on the forum, malign them that they are not stalkers or sorcerers. And you offer to teach. All the earmarkings of forestwolf/river. No one here aside from Gonzo is going to take you seriously. You can always dupe your famous mark, but not the rest of the audience.
So now you show up here. How's that working for you. What is your intent? Because your intent isn't stalking examples. You know good and well, they were stalking examples. Because you know what stalking is. And you also know what it is not. You have been being very slick and stalking everyone in this forum, the whole time. And you will continue to stalk because you are obsessive.