06-23-2011, 12:00 AM
Bob May wrote:
Lex Silentio wrote:
Jessicar,
I just saw this response of yours here. I did not hear from you on Skype??
All I can say is I am not really that interested in my point of view concerning the Sorcerer's Explanation. I am interested in DJ's point of view. I believe it is very complex and difficult to arrive at. I got very excited as I presented this because it felt like I was finally beginning to understand what he was getting at. And for me at least what HE is getting at is very different (and not the same) as what is being presented in most forums like this. It is this difference that I have tried to draw attention to, despite the attempts to blur the lines.
When DJ's says he deviates or varies from his own tradition, I see this of great significance. It is something that eluded me (as I know it does others whether others care to admit it or not). It eluded me because the context was missing, or at least sketchy. The context is essential. It is connected to the preparation involved if the Sorcerer's Explanation is to deliver its "lethal blow" effectively. The thread still had a ways to go. We never got to what we thought DJ meant by this "lethal blow", what it means to receive such a blow, its impact etc. (We are not talking about the pat on the back here, impact between the shoulder blades). But you see if one is not even interested in why DJ varies from his tradition to begin with, then all this talk about blows etc is useless. One thing I would like to make clear is I am not offering a Sorcerer's Explanation.
Now for those who do not see this as significant, or consciously recognize the dilemma, then the blow will have no impact. Continue with your lives and pardon the interruption. lol.
Hi Lex and all,
You had an experience that we discussed. It seemed to match an experience that I had. I have a question that is very specific and just came to mind while reading your description of the "lethal blow." I have never related this before but when I experienced what I call stopping the world I was sitting with some "friends" around a table and I was beginning to go into another world so to speak. Everything was changing including their faces and their "inner faces" were being revealed to me. Language came to have no meaning and everything around me began to "come apart" as if turning to fog and disintegrating along geometric lines.
At a specific moment, I heard and felt a very loud pop or crack at the base of my skull in my brainstem. It was very loud to the point that I would have thought that those in the room must have heard it also, but did not ask. It felt like something actually broke.) I tried to speak but words had no meaning and the only thing I could voice was the word No before words lost all meaning.
I knew, at that moment that I was not "coming down", (back to normal) the next day. That proved to be true, and I was caught up in something other than normal for about 6 weeks to two months from that moment. I have experienced that "pop" a few other times in my life since then, coupled with other phenomena, but nothing of the magnitude of that first time.
In the Qabala it is said that the "invisible" Sephirah of Daath confers Knowledge of a completely different being. This Sephirah, when applying the Tree of Life to the microcosm, (our bodies) would be placed at the nape of the neck.
I wonder if you (Lex) had experienced the same thing when you experienced what you experienced or at any other time. And I am also wondering if this might relate to that "Sorcerer's blow" or "lethal blow" Carlos wrote about.
Also if anyone else had experienced a similar thing.
Hey Bob,
That sound you experienced sounds like the pop and opening up of the pineal gland. That is when third eye awareness comes into sight!
Although I never took any heavy drugs or hallucinogenics ( being a product of the 70's culture) I was diagnosed with catatonic schizophrenia with auditory hallucinations at age 14. I was hospitalized with allot of drug addicts whom tripped over the line. We all received the same treatment and therapy since these mimic and masks the same symptoms in the aftermath. Anyway, I believed I felt the popping of my pineal gland at this age. After all this happened I found I could naturally astral project in my dreams and have lucid out of body dreams. This was a very healing time while sleeping! I also had electro shock treatments at age 20 that seemed to mimic the likes of the "sorcerers blow".I had gone more than three months without sleeping because of auditory hallucinations in my youth. I have been told this is humanly impossible. But in those sleepless episodes I learned to combat in sobriety, the "things that go bump in the night" or "flyers", instead of getting the needed R.E. M.
Lex Silentio wrote:
Jessicar,
I just saw this response of yours here. I did not hear from you on Skype??
All I can say is I am not really that interested in my point of view concerning the Sorcerer's Explanation. I am interested in DJ's point of view. I believe it is very complex and difficult to arrive at. I got very excited as I presented this because it felt like I was finally beginning to understand what he was getting at. And for me at least what HE is getting at is very different (and not the same) as what is being presented in most forums like this. It is this difference that I have tried to draw attention to, despite the attempts to blur the lines.
When DJ's says he deviates or varies from his own tradition, I see this of great significance. It is something that eluded me (as I know it does others whether others care to admit it or not). It eluded me because the context was missing, or at least sketchy. The context is essential. It is connected to the preparation involved if the Sorcerer's Explanation is to deliver its "lethal blow" effectively. The thread still had a ways to go. We never got to what we thought DJ meant by this "lethal blow", what it means to receive such a blow, its impact etc. (We are not talking about the pat on the back here, impact between the shoulder blades). But you see if one is not even interested in why DJ varies from his tradition to begin with, then all this talk about blows etc is useless. One thing I would like to make clear is I am not offering a Sorcerer's Explanation.
Now for those who do not see this as significant, or consciously recognize the dilemma, then the blow will have no impact. Continue with your lives and pardon the interruption. lol.
Hi Lex and all,
You had an experience that we discussed. It seemed to match an experience that I had. I have a question that is very specific and just came to mind while reading your description of the "lethal blow." I have never related this before but when I experienced what I call stopping the world I was sitting with some "friends" around a table and I was beginning to go into another world so to speak. Everything was changing including their faces and their "inner faces" were being revealed to me. Language came to have no meaning and everything around me began to "come apart" as if turning to fog and disintegrating along geometric lines.
At a specific moment, I heard and felt a very loud pop or crack at the base of my skull in my brainstem. It was very loud to the point that I would have thought that those in the room must have heard it also, but did not ask. It felt like something actually broke.) I tried to speak but words had no meaning and the only thing I could voice was the word No before words lost all meaning.
I knew, at that moment that I was not "coming down", (back to normal) the next day. That proved to be true, and I was caught up in something other than normal for about 6 weeks to two months from that moment. I have experienced that "pop" a few other times in my life since then, coupled with other phenomena, but nothing of the magnitude of that first time.
In the Qabala it is said that the "invisible" Sephirah of Daath confers Knowledge of a completely different being. This Sephirah, when applying the Tree of Life to the microcosm, (our bodies) would be placed at the nape of the neck.
I wonder if you (Lex) had experienced the same thing when you experienced what you experienced or at any other time. And I am also wondering if this might relate to that "Sorcerer's blow" or "lethal blow" Carlos wrote about.
Also if anyone else had experienced a similar thing.
Hey Bob,
That sound you experienced sounds like the pop and opening up of the pineal gland. That is when third eye awareness comes into sight!
Although I never took any heavy drugs or hallucinogenics ( being a product of the 70's culture) I was diagnosed with catatonic schizophrenia with auditory hallucinations at age 14. I was hospitalized with allot of drug addicts whom tripped over the line. We all received the same treatment and therapy since these mimic and masks the same symptoms in the aftermath. Anyway, I believed I felt the popping of my pineal gland at this age. After all this happened I found I could naturally astral project in my dreams and have lucid out of body dreams. This was a very healing time while sleeping! I also had electro shock treatments at age 20 that seemed to mimic the likes of the "sorcerers blow".I had gone more than three months without sleeping because of auditory hallucinations in my youth. I have been told this is humanly impossible. But in those sleepless episodes I learned to combat in sobriety, the "things that go bump in the night" or "flyers", instead of getting the needed R.E. M.