06-30-2011, 12:00 AM
My whole reply when it was almost done got erased when my computer froze, sigh. Strangely enough the latter part turned up in the composing part of the reply message box when the page showed up on refresh, so at least I do not have to rewrite the whole of it . I might go into the sexual stuff sometime later, somewhere else. I had a look at the chakras and what they do, just in a sort of shorter recap, how it is when they are open, overactive/underactive, malfunctioning and blocked. I know I have problems with sacral and ‘door of life’ kidney center chakra. But generally I would not say my sexual center chakras are or were overactive, more likely blocked or malfunctioning or influenced by some other center that is currently having trouble. Plus I also see from what emotions this usually comes (which connects to Kidney center). I said the arousal is not connected to anything sexual, but it is always connected to something specific in my life. It seems to me I do not know how to deal with it, lead it out of the system properly and it goes into sexual arousal. I do not know what to do with it… (maybe you can give me some pointers later). First I will try the meditation tips that you gave me . I already did a shorter meditation yesterday in the woods.. stopped before losing control of my body because I was sitting above ground on a fallen tree .
It seems to me though that it really is a problem of the Kidney center.. I should search around for some ways to help it be more balanced..
Bob wrote:I suppose I have had more the lower centers open (at least before if not now), I remember Taisha being told that she walks funny because of some open lower centers (those talked about in balancing the double). That is normal. A totally "Natural" man is more concerned with lower things. It is not until we begin to look for something "else" do we begin to dewvelop in other areas. Man was created to be more than natural.
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Most people do their thinking and sensing the world from somewhere below the solar plexus.
I meant the centers Taisha talks about:
“Taisha” wrote:“The first gate is in the sole of the foot, at the base of the big toe…
The second gate is the area that includes the calves (lytka) and the inner part of the knee..
The third is at the sexual organs and tailbone....
The fourth and the most important is in the area of the kidneys….
You have had the gates in your feet and calves partially open all your life.
"Another consequence of those lower centers being open is that you have trouble walking."
"Wait just a moment," I said, "there's nothing wrong with the way I walk. I practice martial arts. Clara told me that I move smoothly and gracefully."
At that he burst out laughing. "You can practice whatever you please," he retorted, "you still drag your feet when you walk. You have an old man's shuffle."”I understand there is a chakra in the soles of the feat that connects us to the Earth. I do not know what these two chakras/centers in the legs do, but I can say I have been walking strange .
Bob wrote:Interesting. So when this happened you just pulled it up and it was fine again? How does it happen that a chakra is too activated? (if you know..) If I am walking around sexually aroused for no reason whatsoever it is too activated. lol. Same with if I am angry. Once it was very difficult to stop. It took some time.
But normally it helps to feel the heart chakra and inhale deeply while trying to pull up to crown. The heart or breast almost acts as a kind of fuel it seems to accomplish this. So does inhaling deeply. Heh, you reply how you know it is too activated, but how does it become so? The technique you gave is for taking care of sexual energy that is where/when it should not be. Do you also have a way to strengthen certain centers? Do you just focus on that center and put consciousness there? What can one do? (if it is specific then I am most interested in the two mentioned centers. The Sacral: http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/Sacral.htm and around the Kidneys http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/Door_of_Life.htm - “the Qabalistic correspondence here would be the lower part of the Sefirah Hod ”). If one has consciousness on the tip of the head is it good also for all the centers? If one lets the sexual energy pass through the body upward it might be good for the rest of the chakras that it passes through, hm?
Bob wrote:A lot of research into a new generation of headphones is now underway. The new generation with deal a lot more with the time lag that happens when one ear hears the sound slightly before the other and of slightly different environment. That is stereo and also stereo vision.
Our minds/brains actually are making up a third version that does not come in through our eyes or ears. It filters and interprets and creates moment by moment the world we are surrounded by. Exactly, that is why I was talking about it in connection to stopping of the world, it is a stopping of the usual interpretation/blending of our senses that we are doing without even being aware, it is automatic.
The new generation of headphones you say... So those would be like if I put them on during my double hearing then it would be perfect, because it counts with these delays of one ear over the other?
Bob wrote:I go through times where I hear a very soft voice as I am waking. I think it sounds like me. It is very quiet and soothing and tells me things. Explains things I am working on that I did not know. I don't always remember what it is teaching me but when I can I sit at the kitchen table for about a half hour having a cigarette and coffee and just let the ideas it brought interconnect with what I have already learned.
It is an entirely different way of thinking which takes no effort at all. Just listening.Sounds practical and magical . My version is as if connecting to the soul/heart of the others (the sad thing is they do not always do what their hearts/souls tell them). I still have to find/hear/listen to the self I guess... I did hear some things of interest to me as well, but it was a male voice that is not a voice from another person I know. I did not hear myself.. I was thinking it could have been the dream emissary as CC talks about that… Plus one of my allies told me it was an inorganic (it basically showed me a big statue and told me that is also its form. Later I found Castaneda and read about the energetic forms of inorganics, one of which was like the statue… I went and asked this ally if he was inorganic and it said yes. I do not really know what to make of that). But since your voice is you and not the dream emissary, then mine does not have to be either . This was before I started hearing the voices of others I know in such a way as if they were telling me something connected to them (but also somehow connected to me, for example if I was wondering about something etc).
Bob wrote:It relates to probably the greatest revelation in scriptures as far as I am concerned. We are either under the law or under grace. One (under the law) is accomplished by our own efforts. The work of our hands, the sweat of our brows etc. It is all through the bible. It will only get us so far.
The other, (grace,) is a gift and things come effortlessly as I described above concerning the voice. To acknowledge an intelligent Creator above all who is in control and has our best interests at heart.
To go from one mentality, the law mentality to the grace mentality is the toppling of the tower. The confusion of languages is that people who cannot accept the grace idea cannot understand what you are saying even if you explain it to them.Yes, it is the balance of giving vs. receiving. We need to be able to receive gifts that are given - grace. Some people are so goal oriented they do not have this option in their lives so to speak. Therefore they do not see/believe these gifts can be given, thus they block them… I am surely not as open as I could be, but I am getting there..
This I understand (well not the middle pillar stuff specifically, but the general idea that is behind it):
Bob wrote:The Lighning Struck Tower sits on the path that crosses the Middle Pillar. It is a veil that needs to be gone through. It is a complete change in the structure or pattern of how we think. The idea of everything takes effort and for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction must give way to the realization that everything is a gift.
The Lighning Struck Tower sits on the path that crosses the Middle Pillar. It is a veil that needs to be gone through. It is a complete change in the structure or pattern of how we think. The idea of everything takes effort and for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction must give way to the realization that everything is a gift.
The bolt from God that destroys our old structures and ideas is a gift. Not a punishment. It is enlightenment. It could apply loosely to stopping the world I suppose but it is a higher experience because it opens the way to higher planes of knowing.
The triangle of Hod Netsach and Yesod is the "Magical Triangle" and would have to do with The way of the occultist and natural magic etc. Above that would be the way of the mystical.To make better sense of what you said I went to the 'Being open to power' thread, where you explained a bit of the tree. I thought the middle pillar is what goes through Malkuth, Yesod, Tiphareth, Daath and Kether. The tarot card of the tower of Bable on the Path between Yesod and Hod. But now I realized you write a path that crosses the middle pillar .Well it goes to Yesod, so I did not really understand it as crossing. Crossing the Middle Pillar would have been for me for example the Netzach-Hod path. Well, glad it makes sense anyhow . As such this tower of Babel experience is important for sorcerers as well. I remember you said that a sorcerer lives within those first four 'bubbles' (but appreciate you giving the edit on it as well, it is hard to understand/keep in memory so much new information)
So a mystic then has to go through/experience all the paths apart from the 4 that are going from Hod-Geburath-Binah and Netzach-Chesed-Chokmah?
Hm you say in the other thread:
Bob wrote:The man of knowledge or mystic tries to live in Tipareth which has access through the paths (awarenesses) to the entire tree.But doesn’t the whole tree have access to the entire tree through other paths? I do see how being in the middle looks most practical though, in terms of accessibility and balance .
So basically you know (Quabala shows/tells) what ‘veils’ need to be gone through on every path connecting the various ‘bubbles’? Sounds like a very good thing to be aware of… There are 22 cards. Does each card symbolize a ‘veil’ one has to go through, like the tower of Babel card?
It seems to me though that it really is a problem of the Kidney center.. I should search around for some ways to help it be more balanced..
Bob wrote:I suppose I have had more the lower centers open (at least before if not now), I remember Taisha being told that she walks funny because of some open lower centers (those talked about in balancing the double). That is normal. A totally "Natural" man is more concerned with lower things. It is not until we begin to look for something "else" do we begin to dewvelop in other areas. Man was created to be more than natural.
…
Most people do their thinking and sensing the world from somewhere below the solar plexus.
I meant the centers Taisha talks about:
“Taisha” wrote:“The first gate is in the sole of the foot, at the base of the big toe…
The second gate is the area that includes the calves (lytka) and the inner part of the knee..
The third is at the sexual organs and tailbone....
The fourth and the most important is in the area of the kidneys….
You have had the gates in your feet and calves partially open all your life.
"Another consequence of those lower centers being open is that you have trouble walking."
"Wait just a moment," I said, "there's nothing wrong with the way I walk. I practice martial arts. Clara told me that I move smoothly and gracefully."
At that he burst out laughing. "You can practice whatever you please," he retorted, "you still drag your feet when you walk. You have an old man's shuffle."”I understand there is a chakra in the soles of the feat that connects us to the Earth. I do not know what these two chakras/centers in the legs do, but I can say I have been walking strange .
Bob wrote:Interesting. So when this happened you just pulled it up and it was fine again? How does it happen that a chakra is too activated? (if you know..) If I am walking around sexually aroused for no reason whatsoever it is too activated. lol. Same with if I am angry. Once it was very difficult to stop. It took some time.
But normally it helps to feel the heart chakra and inhale deeply while trying to pull up to crown. The heart or breast almost acts as a kind of fuel it seems to accomplish this. So does inhaling deeply. Heh, you reply how you know it is too activated, but how does it become so? The technique you gave is for taking care of sexual energy that is where/when it should not be. Do you also have a way to strengthen certain centers? Do you just focus on that center and put consciousness there? What can one do? (if it is specific then I am most interested in the two mentioned centers. The Sacral: http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/Sacral.htm and around the Kidneys http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/Door_of_Life.htm - “the Qabalistic correspondence here would be the lower part of the Sefirah Hod ”). If one has consciousness on the tip of the head is it good also for all the centers? If one lets the sexual energy pass through the body upward it might be good for the rest of the chakras that it passes through, hm?
Bob wrote:A lot of research into a new generation of headphones is now underway. The new generation with deal a lot more with the time lag that happens when one ear hears the sound slightly before the other and of slightly different environment. That is stereo and also stereo vision.
Our minds/brains actually are making up a third version that does not come in through our eyes or ears. It filters and interprets and creates moment by moment the world we are surrounded by. Exactly, that is why I was talking about it in connection to stopping of the world, it is a stopping of the usual interpretation/blending of our senses that we are doing without even being aware, it is automatic.
The new generation of headphones you say... So those would be like if I put them on during my double hearing then it would be perfect, because it counts with these delays of one ear over the other?
Bob wrote:I go through times where I hear a very soft voice as I am waking. I think it sounds like me. It is very quiet and soothing and tells me things. Explains things I am working on that I did not know. I don't always remember what it is teaching me but when I can I sit at the kitchen table for about a half hour having a cigarette and coffee and just let the ideas it brought interconnect with what I have already learned.
It is an entirely different way of thinking which takes no effort at all. Just listening.Sounds practical and magical . My version is as if connecting to the soul/heart of the others (the sad thing is they do not always do what their hearts/souls tell them). I still have to find/hear/listen to the self I guess... I did hear some things of interest to me as well, but it was a male voice that is not a voice from another person I know. I did not hear myself.. I was thinking it could have been the dream emissary as CC talks about that… Plus one of my allies told me it was an inorganic (it basically showed me a big statue and told me that is also its form. Later I found Castaneda and read about the energetic forms of inorganics, one of which was like the statue… I went and asked this ally if he was inorganic and it said yes. I do not really know what to make of that). But since your voice is you and not the dream emissary, then mine does not have to be either . This was before I started hearing the voices of others I know in such a way as if they were telling me something connected to them (but also somehow connected to me, for example if I was wondering about something etc).
Bob wrote:It relates to probably the greatest revelation in scriptures as far as I am concerned. We are either under the law or under grace. One (under the law) is accomplished by our own efforts. The work of our hands, the sweat of our brows etc. It is all through the bible. It will only get us so far.
The other, (grace,) is a gift and things come effortlessly as I described above concerning the voice. To acknowledge an intelligent Creator above all who is in control and has our best interests at heart.
To go from one mentality, the law mentality to the grace mentality is the toppling of the tower. The confusion of languages is that people who cannot accept the grace idea cannot understand what you are saying even if you explain it to them.Yes, it is the balance of giving vs. receiving. We need to be able to receive gifts that are given - grace. Some people are so goal oriented they do not have this option in their lives so to speak. Therefore they do not see/believe these gifts can be given, thus they block them… I am surely not as open as I could be, but I am getting there..
This I understand (well not the middle pillar stuff specifically, but the general idea that is behind it):
Bob wrote:The Lighning Struck Tower sits on the path that crosses the Middle Pillar. It is a veil that needs to be gone through. It is a complete change in the structure or pattern of how we think. The idea of everything takes effort and for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction must give way to the realization that everything is a gift.
The Lighning Struck Tower sits on the path that crosses the Middle Pillar. It is a veil that needs to be gone through. It is a complete change in the structure or pattern of how we think. The idea of everything takes effort and for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction must give way to the realization that everything is a gift.
The bolt from God that destroys our old structures and ideas is a gift. Not a punishment. It is enlightenment. It could apply loosely to stopping the world I suppose but it is a higher experience because it opens the way to higher planes of knowing.
The triangle of Hod Netsach and Yesod is the "Magical Triangle" and would have to do with The way of the occultist and natural magic etc. Above that would be the way of the mystical.To make better sense of what you said I went to the 'Being open to power' thread, where you explained a bit of the tree. I thought the middle pillar is what goes through Malkuth, Yesod, Tiphareth, Daath and Kether. The tarot card of the tower of Bable on the Path between Yesod and Hod. But now I realized you write a path that crosses the middle pillar .Well it goes to Yesod, so I did not really understand it as crossing. Crossing the Middle Pillar would have been for me for example the Netzach-Hod path. Well, glad it makes sense anyhow . As such this tower of Babel experience is important for sorcerers as well. I remember you said that a sorcerer lives within those first four 'bubbles' (but appreciate you giving the edit on it as well, it is hard to understand/keep in memory so much new information)
So a mystic then has to go through/experience all the paths apart from the 4 that are going from Hod-Geburath-Binah and Netzach-Chesed-Chokmah?
Hm you say in the other thread:
Bob wrote:The man of knowledge or mystic tries to live in Tipareth which has access through the paths (awarenesses) to the entire tree.But doesn’t the whole tree have access to the entire tree through other paths? I do see how being in the middle looks most practical though, in terms of accessibility and balance .
So basically you know (Quabala shows/tells) what ‘veils’ need to be gone through on every path connecting the various ‘bubbles’? Sounds like a very good thing to be aware of… There are 22 cards. Does each card symbolize a ‘veil’ one has to go through, like the tower of Babel card?