07-06-2011, 12:00 AM
Bob May wrote:
ninth octave wrote:
Then the Lord God made every tree grow "that is pleasant to the sight and good for food." And among these trees he ALSO planted the Tree of Life AND the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. According to the Kabbalah , the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is in the MIDDLE COLUMN of the TREE OF LIFE. Therefore the TWO TREES ARE ONE IN REALITY.
Jesus is there in the very center 6 TIPHARETH BEAUTY Jesus is the Tree of Life that all will try to seek and find at the end of their path. "Blessed are those whom know the end from the beginning."'
Hi Ninth,
Is that quote from the Gospel of Thomas?
Yes something like it. Meaning going back to the origin -the beginning to know God
Gospel of Thomas 18: "The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us how our end will be,"Jesus said, 'Have you discovered , then the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he will take this place in the beginning, he will know the end and will not experience death."
I would look at that the other way around. The middle pillar of Grace would be closer to the Tree of Life which is in the midst will take t of the garden.
Actually it is probably both depending on how you use it or look at it.
Grace vs. Law again. For every Sephirah except the first two there are vises and virtues. Good and Evil.
It was a great revelation to know these two trees grew out of each other. The tree was both Good and Evil but inside the midst of it appeared another tree in the middle coloumm. Castaneda knew there was an eagle that sat atop the tree. I will find the book and page where he acknowledges this. Jesus is the Eagle beckoning us to climb the Tree of Life by returning to the origin- the Garden, aka. Paradise to live in communion once again like Adam and Eve had done so before their fall.
But both trees are in the "midst of the garden. So, yes it could be that the two trees are one and the same.
Ge 2:9
And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Ge 2:10
And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
The river that flows out of the dress of the High Priestess begins in the ocean behind her. Her feet are on the moon which is Yesod and she sits between the two side pillars of the Tree of life. She being the middle pillar. The veils behind her has the image of the Tree of Life printed upon it and symbolises the veil into the Holy of Holies that was torn from top to bottom (meaning God did it rather than man.) when Jesus died on the cross.
You can see evidence of that river in the other Tarot Cards as streams and pools of water etc., coming down the Tree. But the Middle Pillar is connected to the Source. The "Holiest place of all."
The reason I say that it is how you use this knowledge is because Jesus came to show us a way to think and interrelate with the world around us that puts us on this middle pillar. The pillar of Grace.
Before he came the general idea of God was a wrathful Deity that you had better obey and that was to be feared.
But Jesus demonstrated that God loves those who he created and provides for them and wishes to communicate with them.
Jesus, when on this earth as a human being functioned from Tiphareth (the Christ center). He had direct access to all of the knowledge of the Father. And all of the powers and knowledge of the entire tree.
That is what he was teaching us. How to function from there.
When we get an awareness of what Grace is we begin to function more and more from that awareness. And begin to realize the Tree of Life.
When we function from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Do good Get good do evil get evil we are constantly condemned because we cannot live up to God's standard of perfection.
"Consider the ravens who neither sow nor reap yet God provides for them." This is completely opposite Moses' Law of, "..as you sow, so shall you reap."
Two realities. Two trees. One leads to life, the other to death. Feminine -Passive // Equilibrium // Male -Active
Left Pillar Middle Pillar Right Pillar
Judgement Mildness Mercy
Jesus was teaching and showing his fellow Jews that the keys to the kingdom that begins from within the person as this path will lead to The Tree of Life. Jesus is the middle pillar way as everyone that was still operating inside the law of Moses( judgement side of the left pillar ) . The Spirit fulfilled the improbability of obediance to the law of Moses, by bestowing grace and mercy and justice upon the Jew and Gentile. By polarizing both the left pillar ( judgement ) and right pillar( mercy) the equalizer of Mildness is found inside the Middle Pillar way. Jesus is the Tree of Life when one is seeking the path of the middle way.
ninth octave wrote:
Then the Lord God made every tree grow "that is pleasant to the sight and good for food." And among these trees he ALSO planted the Tree of Life AND the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. According to the Kabbalah , the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is in the MIDDLE COLUMN of the TREE OF LIFE. Therefore the TWO TREES ARE ONE IN REALITY.
Jesus is there in the very center 6 TIPHARETH BEAUTY Jesus is the Tree of Life that all will try to seek and find at the end of their path. "Blessed are those whom know the end from the beginning."'
Hi Ninth,
Is that quote from the Gospel of Thomas?
Yes something like it. Meaning going back to the origin -the beginning to know God
Gospel of Thomas 18: "The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us how our end will be,"Jesus said, 'Have you discovered , then the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he will take this place in the beginning, he will know the end and will not experience death."
I would look at that the other way around. The middle pillar of Grace would be closer to the Tree of Life which is in the midst will take t of the garden.
Actually it is probably both depending on how you use it or look at it.
Grace vs. Law again. For every Sephirah except the first two there are vises and virtues. Good and Evil.
It was a great revelation to know these two trees grew out of each other. The tree was both Good and Evil but inside the midst of it appeared another tree in the middle coloumm. Castaneda knew there was an eagle that sat atop the tree. I will find the book and page where he acknowledges this. Jesus is the Eagle beckoning us to climb the Tree of Life by returning to the origin- the Garden, aka. Paradise to live in communion once again like Adam and Eve had done so before their fall.
But both trees are in the "midst of the garden. So, yes it could be that the two trees are one and the same.
Ge 2:9
And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Ge 2:10
And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
The river that flows out of the dress of the High Priestess begins in the ocean behind her. Her feet are on the moon which is Yesod and she sits between the two side pillars of the Tree of life. She being the middle pillar. The veils behind her has the image of the Tree of Life printed upon it and symbolises the veil into the Holy of Holies that was torn from top to bottom (meaning God did it rather than man.) when Jesus died on the cross.
You can see evidence of that river in the other Tarot Cards as streams and pools of water etc., coming down the Tree. But the Middle Pillar is connected to the Source. The "Holiest place of all."
The reason I say that it is how you use this knowledge is because Jesus came to show us a way to think and interrelate with the world around us that puts us on this middle pillar. The pillar of Grace.
Before he came the general idea of God was a wrathful Deity that you had better obey and that was to be feared.
But Jesus demonstrated that God loves those who he created and provides for them and wishes to communicate with them.
Jesus, when on this earth as a human being functioned from Tiphareth (the Christ center). He had direct access to all of the knowledge of the Father. And all of the powers and knowledge of the entire tree.
That is what he was teaching us. How to function from there.
When we get an awareness of what Grace is we begin to function more and more from that awareness. And begin to realize the Tree of Life.
When we function from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Do good Get good do evil get evil we are constantly condemned because we cannot live up to God's standard of perfection.
"Consider the ravens who neither sow nor reap yet God provides for them." This is completely opposite Moses' Law of, "..as you sow, so shall you reap."
Two realities. Two trees. One leads to life, the other to death. Feminine -Passive // Equilibrium // Male -Active
Left Pillar Middle Pillar Right Pillar
Judgement Mildness Mercy
Jesus was teaching and showing his fellow Jews that the keys to the kingdom that begins from within the person as this path will lead to The Tree of Life. Jesus is the middle pillar way as everyone that was still operating inside the law of Moses( judgement side of the left pillar ) . The Spirit fulfilled the improbability of obediance to the law of Moses, by bestowing grace and mercy and justice upon the Jew and Gentile. By polarizing both the left pillar ( judgement ) and right pillar( mercy) the equalizer of Mildness is found inside the Middle Pillar way. Jesus is the Tree of Life when one is seeking the path of the middle way.