01-16-2011, 12:00 AM
Gonzo wrote:
Are you all ignoring this key comment?
Tierney thinks that Loughner's mindset was like the Joker in the most recent Batman movie: "He fucks things up to *** **** up, there's no rhyme or reason, he wants to watch the world burn. He probably wanted to take everyone out of their monotonous lives: 'Another Saturday, going to go get groceries'—to take people out of these norms that he thought society had trapped us in."Since the comment did not come from Loughner himself, it's just speculation - maybe even someone getting their 15 minutes of fame by being The Former Friend of The Crazy Guy. But even if that isn't the case - even if Tierney is right in his assumptions (and they are assumptions), it would tend to validate my earlier point - which is that humans can come to all sorts of erroneous conclusions based on few (if any) facts. IF Loughner just wanted to watch the world burn, what brought him to that state of mind and caused him to act on it? What manner of self-importance would give him the (so-called) right "to take people out of these norms that he thought society had trapped us in"?? Put another way, who put him in charge of anyone else's life or death?
Somewhere along the line, he came to a lot of conclusions that ultimately resulted in a lot of chaos and personal tragedy - maybe inevitable in the view of some, but altogether unnecessary in the grand scheme of things. It did not have to happen. It was made to happen by the actions of a single individual. Maybe with a guiding hand (even one good parent), the outcome could have been different. By and large, madmen aren't born. They are created. A warrior knows this and stalks himself ruthlessly so as to create a survivor rather than becoming a victim of his own false beliefs.
Watching the world burn is one thing. Starting the fire is something else altogether.
Respectfully,
Are you all ignoring this key comment?
Tierney thinks that Loughner's mindset was like the Joker in the most recent Batman movie: "He fucks things up to *** **** up, there's no rhyme or reason, he wants to watch the world burn. He probably wanted to take everyone out of their monotonous lives: 'Another Saturday, going to go get groceries'—to take people out of these norms that he thought society had trapped us in."Since the comment did not come from Loughner himself, it's just speculation - maybe even someone getting their 15 minutes of fame by being The Former Friend of The Crazy Guy. But even if that isn't the case - even if Tierney is right in his assumptions (and they are assumptions), it would tend to validate my earlier point - which is that humans can come to all sorts of erroneous conclusions based on few (if any) facts. IF Loughner just wanted to watch the world burn, what brought him to that state of mind and caused him to act on it? What manner of self-importance would give him the (so-called) right "to take people out of these norms that he thought society had trapped us in"?? Put another way, who put him in charge of anyone else's life or death?
Somewhere along the line, he came to a lot of conclusions that ultimately resulted in a lot of chaos and personal tragedy - maybe inevitable in the view of some, but altogether unnecessary in the grand scheme of things. It did not have to happen. It was made to happen by the actions of a single individual. Maybe with a guiding hand (even one good parent), the outcome could have been different. By and large, madmen aren't born. They are created. A warrior knows this and stalks himself ruthlessly so as to create a survivor rather than becoming a victim of his own false beliefs.
Watching the world burn is one thing. Starting the fire is something else altogether.
Respectfully,

