03-12-2011, 12:00 AM
I have been seeing a lot of this lately, the word stalking used to refer
to what people do to others. I was always taught that stalking is to
be done of the self. I understand it is possible to stalk another
person, but i think this gets closely confused with the stalking that ex
boyfriends sometimes do, ya know? What are we achieving when we stalk
another person? I don't see the point, unless it is in relation to how
we relate to them....
I'm just thinking out loud here, something I've been wondering about for a while. Do you think it's soemthing that Lujan started and is perpetuating.. stalking
others and calling it a Toltec practise.
Some of you have mentioned that you do stalk others. I personally stalk weaknesses in my own self. For those of you that do stalk others, what is the aim or focus of this practice? Are you looking for weaknesses in the other? If so, what is the reason for this? I can only see, that stalking other's weaknesses would be of use, if you were planning to attack them.
Can anyone help me with this?
Here's a part of an article:
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/may3/luis.htm
We must dream with the purpose of stalking, to try to stalk who is within ourselves and see what our beliefs are.
We primarily stalk two things in dreaming: thinking (what is in the head) and heartbreak.
By heartbreak, I mean the incredible pain we feel from the terrible
things that have happened to us. When we feel the pain of heartbreak, we
close off parts of ourselves. In some way, we stop living. If the same
situation comes up again, we say, "Oh, no, I won't let myself be hurt
again!"
But this is no way to live. Life is so short and so incredibly
beautiful. It is such a gift. You must forgive yourself for experiencing
heartbreak. You must love the heartbreak in your life, because it is
part of living. Most importantly, you must create a better dream.
We also stalk to find the thoughts that keep us chained in "reality."
These thoughts that we think so many times limit us. If we can identify
these limiting thoughts, we can pull the energy back from their mental
patterns and create anew.
It is so important to take back these lost energies and share with the
world the gifts given to us from the angels and God. Heartbreak and
limiting thoughts are like a cage. They keep us caged, imprisoned, in
the three-dimensional world. The cage is created from the fear of being
the Self, of being authentic.
Lies and fears about our Self are the forces that keep us in the cage —
and they are not real. We must reclaim the key to our cage by pulling
the energy back from our thoughts and our heartbreak. In this way, we
become free.
Stalking in dreaming can be compared to opening gates. If a state of
mind or heartbreak has been identified in dreaming, then we find the
opening point of the wound, or the judgment, and we go in our memory to
the point just before it occurred. When we remember the time before the
memory occurred, we find a closing point for the wound — and then we go a
little further back in time, so we can avoid returning to the wound.
Now we can see an entirely different world, or movie. We have created a better dream.
It is possible to use this technique to open a gate and see a different view.
Julia: Can you explain a little more about using stalking to create a better dream?
Don José: Again, until we are free, heartbreak and thinking will
always appear in our dreams. This is because life is nothing but a
reflection of ourselves and our memories.
One way of using stalking with heartbreak is to relive all the
heartbreak in your life. Take one incident at a time and imagine that
you are pulling all of the energy out of that terrible experience.
Imagine it over and over until you can feel nothing when you watch
images in your mind.
Then take the experience and "dream" a whole different reality. See your
life moving in a different direction, a wonderful dream, with a happy
experience in place of the heartbreak. See the way that you want to
live, as opposed to how you have been living.
It is possible to do this with all of your life.So. here they speak of stalking the self, in order to free stuck energies.
to what people do to others. I was always taught that stalking is to
be done of the self. I understand it is possible to stalk another
person, but i think this gets closely confused with the stalking that ex
boyfriends sometimes do, ya know? What are we achieving when we stalk
another person? I don't see the point, unless it is in relation to how
we relate to them....
I'm just thinking out loud here, something I've been wondering about for a while. Do you think it's soemthing that Lujan started and is perpetuating.. stalking
others and calling it a Toltec practise.
Some of you have mentioned that you do stalk others. I personally stalk weaknesses in my own self. For those of you that do stalk others, what is the aim or focus of this practice? Are you looking for weaknesses in the other? If so, what is the reason for this? I can only see, that stalking other's weaknesses would be of use, if you were planning to attack them.
Can anyone help me with this?
Here's a part of an article:
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/may3/luis.htm
We must dream with the purpose of stalking, to try to stalk who is within ourselves and see what our beliefs are.
We primarily stalk two things in dreaming: thinking (what is in the head) and heartbreak.
By heartbreak, I mean the incredible pain we feel from the terrible
things that have happened to us. When we feel the pain of heartbreak, we
close off parts of ourselves. In some way, we stop living. If the same
situation comes up again, we say, "Oh, no, I won't let myself be hurt
again!"
But this is no way to live. Life is so short and so incredibly
beautiful. It is such a gift. You must forgive yourself for experiencing
heartbreak. You must love the heartbreak in your life, because it is
part of living. Most importantly, you must create a better dream.
We also stalk to find the thoughts that keep us chained in "reality."
These thoughts that we think so many times limit us. If we can identify
these limiting thoughts, we can pull the energy back from their mental
patterns and create anew.
It is so important to take back these lost energies and share with the
world the gifts given to us from the angels and God. Heartbreak and
limiting thoughts are like a cage. They keep us caged, imprisoned, in
the three-dimensional world. The cage is created from the fear of being
the Self, of being authentic.
Lies and fears about our Self are the forces that keep us in the cage —
and they are not real. We must reclaim the key to our cage by pulling
the energy back from our thoughts and our heartbreak. In this way, we
become free.
Stalking in dreaming can be compared to opening gates. If a state of
mind or heartbreak has been identified in dreaming, then we find the
opening point of the wound, or the judgment, and we go in our memory to
the point just before it occurred. When we remember the time before the
memory occurred, we find a closing point for the wound — and then we go a
little further back in time, so we can avoid returning to the wound.
Now we can see an entirely different world, or movie. We have created a better dream.
It is possible to use this technique to open a gate and see a different view.
Julia: Can you explain a little more about using stalking to create a better dream?
Don José: Again, until we are free, heartbreak and thinking will
always appear in our dreams. This is because life is nothing but a
reflection of ourselves and our memories.
One way of using stalking with heartbreak is to relive all the
heartbreak in your life. Take one incident at a time and imagine that
you are pulling all of the energy out of that terrible experience.
Imagine it over and over until you can feel nothing when you watch
images in your mind.
Then take the experience and "dream" a whole different reality. See your
life moving in a different direction, a wonderful dream, with a happy
experience in place of the heartbreak. See the way that you want to
live, as opposed to how you have been living.
It is possible to do this with all of your life.So. here they speak of stalking the self, in order to free stuck energies.