03-19-2011, 12:01 AM
Sedna wrote:Gonzo wrote:
Who said it was for their own good? Is the shell game designed for the mark's own good? Indirectly, it is for the mark's own good if he realizes he has been conned and more importantly WHY he was conned. I posted the comment that you cannot con an honest man. If you take that beyond the confines of money into the area of self-importance, you have the kind of stalking I'm talking about.
Which reminds me of a little Zen story, when monks were out in a group doing traditional begging...as they turned a corner, some wag yelled out, "Oh venerable Sir..." and all the monks turned to respond.
Oh this is great, you are good. I think I get this (finally), *does a happy little excited dance,* thank you.
Ok...let's see if I have this right so far. The end goal is to be an honest man (or woman)...but what does this mean?
What I am gathering is that someone came along and did something (what?) that upset a lot of people because they were not being honest, and instead of realizing that they were not being honest they blamed the person...is that right?
Ok, if I am tracking correctly so far, then let me ask this...does this not prove conclusively that stalking others does not work? If it is not conclusive then what would constitute a higher test than this?
Heh. I equate the goal described by don Juan in "Tales of Power" (achieving the totality of self) with being an honest man, a person with, as Zen would say, no points to defend. Prior to that achievement, the person is vulnerable to insult, disrespect, etc...all items of self-importance, the very items the mentioned "trickster" exposed.
Who said it was for their own good? Is the shell game designed for the mark's own good? Indirectly, it is for the mark's own good if he realizes he has been conned and more importantly WHY he was conned. I posted the comment that you cannot con an honest man. If you take that beyond the confines of money into the area of self-importance, you have the kind of stalking I'm talking about.
Which reminds me of a little Zen story, when monks were out in a group doing traditional begging...as they turned a corner, some wag yelled out, "Oh venerable Sir..." and all the monks turned to respond.
Oh this is great, you are good. I think I get this (finally), *does a happy little excited dance,* thank you.
Ok...let's see if I have this right so far. The end goal is to be an honest man (or woman)...but what does this mean?
What I am gathering is that someone came along and did something (what?) that upset a lot of people because they were not being honest, and instead of realizing that they were not being honest they blamed the person...is that right?
Ok, if I am tracking correctly so far, then let me ask this...does this not prove conclusively that stalking others does not work? If it is not conclusive then what would constitute a higher test than this?
Heh. I equate the goal described by don Juan in "Tales of Power" (achieving the totality of self) with being an honest man, a person with, as Zen would say, no points to defend. Prior to that achievement, the person is vulnerable to insult, disrespect, etc...all items of self-importance, the very items the mentioned "trickster" exposed.