03-19-2011, 12:02 AM
Enchantra wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
It should be obvious by now that at least four of the people conned by FW are present in this thread. Of the four, again rather obviously, I'm the only one who considered the con to be artful (or as stated prior, "master") stalking. Therefore, I'll limit my description of events to those which only involved me.
FW ran several sockpuppets, one of which was "Matt". I originally encountered FW on another forum where initially she posted things critical of the admin, with which, at the time, I agreed. Eventually this led to a rift between me and the admin and I started my own board. FW soon arrived, and shortly behind her came "Matt". I was warned, by the other admin that "Matt" was a sockpuppet, but at the time refused to accept that. "Matt" and I got into several discussions about stalking, which at the time I called "mindfucking", thinking I had some abilities in that regard. (I had been raised primarily by my grandmother who was quite adept at the art of mindfucking/stalking, a grand example of which is Edward Albee's play "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?")
"Matt" played dumb while I explained the fine art which revolves around discovering another's shortcomings or points of defense, issues of importance, and exposing them. Meantime, the process was me really being stalked by FW as Matt, playing dumb while in my assumed expertise I explained the process.
When FW finally revealed her stunt, she appeared on my forum and slam-dunked my ass.
At one time I had the transcripts and the postings...unfortunately, they are all lost, else I could provide the real data itself rather than a reference to it.All of this is great, and certainly does prove that FW was a manipulator and most likely still is. Heck I wouldn't be at all surprised if she was here, in disguise as well. LOL However, none of this proves that she was stalking, by the Toltec definition of the word, only that some folks have adopted a new meaning of the word. Hey just had a thought, maybe FW is the one who coined it (not Lujan) ? Who knows?
Yes, I agree...how is this stalking? And, if this is stalking, what did it do? Again, I just see that it doesn't work.
However, and I am sorry to be such a pill about this, but your example isn't really all that clear.
Gonzo wrote:
It should be obvious by now that at least four of the people conned by FW are present in this thread. Of the four, again rather obviously, I'm the only one who considered the con to be artful (or as stated prior, "master") stalking. Therefore, I'll limit my description of events to those which only involved me.
FW ran several sockpuppets, one of which was "Matt". I originally encountered FW on another forum where initially she posted things critical of the admin, with which, at the time, I agreed. Eventually this led to a rift between me and the admin and I started my own board. FW soon arrived, and shortly behind her came "Matt". I was warned, by the other admin that "Matt" was a sockpuppet, but at the time refused to accept that. "Matt" and I got into several discussions about stalking, which at the time I called "mindfucking", thinking I had some abilities in that regard. (I had been raised primarily by my grandmother who was quite adept at the art of mindfucking/stalking, a grand example of which is Edward Albee's play "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?")
"Matt" played dumb while I explained the fine art which revolves around discovering another's shortcomings or points of defense, issues of importance, and exposing them. Meantime, the process was me really being stalked by FW as Matt, playing dumb while in my assumed expertise I explained the process.
When FW finally revealed her stunt, she appeared on my forum and slam-dunked my ass.
At one time I had the transcripts and the postings...unfortunately, they are all lost, else I could provide the real data itself rather than a reference to it.All of this is great, and certainly does prove that FW was a manipulator and most likely still is. Heck I wouldn't be at all surprised if she was here, in disguise as well. LOL However, none of this proves that she was stalking, by the Toltec definition of the word, only that some folks have adopted a new meaning of the word. Hey just had a thought, maybe FW is the one who coined it (not Lujan) ? Who knows?
Yes, I agree...how is this stalking? And, if this is stalking, what did it do? Again, I just see that it doesn't work.
However, and I am sorry to be such a pill about this, but your example isn't really all that clear.