03-20-2011, 12:02 AM
Sedna wrote:datura8 wrote:
One would have to be like some very powerful person to be able to stalk and shift the AP of another for them. Which is one of the main things stalking is for. But I look at it this way, most people with that kind of power are generally impeccable and unconcerned. They do not care about the follies of another. So I don't see a person of power as stalking another in the first place, and what I mean by that is one who has power, if they had it, wouldnt use it. I think alien once referred to some of these stalker types on the internet as kids in capes. Thats generally what the internet stalkers are.
I agree, I do not see stalking another as helpful either...but some have said it is and I want to give that a fair shake, just in case. Although, they haven't shown me how it could be.
I was just reading Spud's intro...and have to agree with Spud that this forum is not noob friendly. There are a lot of agreements about what means what and no one is really posting clearly for anyone outside of that agreement, fwiw. Datura,
Bingo!
Sedna,
I am relatively new here, too and I am having trouble with some of the agreements and defintions, just because they are not what I have learned at other Toltec places or what I've read by CC. So trying to sort it all out to find out who means what, is proving to be a little difficult for me.
I think I've got it that 'stalking others' is more akin to the man on the street stalking, and not so much the Toltec way.
Another Man of Power who is an authority on Toltec wisdom and knowledge and works closely with some IRL Toltec Masters and Schools had this to say on the subject of 'stalking others'
Toltec warriors use a lot of different techniques to dismantle the
layers of the false ego. Stalking is one practice that both CC, Theun
Mares and Kris Raphael teaches. Stalking in Toltec teachings has nothing
to do with "Stalking" other persons. To Stalk is to observe one's own
action without to judge them.
On the subject of the AP shift, it's a real and perceivable thing. Two times recently I have had my AP shifted noticeably. Both times I felt it in my belly, I was unable to speak well and I kind of felt a little broken, but in a good way. So I tend to think of AP shifts that happen while awake as a real and noticeable shift of, not only perception, and awareness, but also power.
One would have to be like some very powerful person to be able to stalk and shift the AP of another for them. Which is one of the main things stalking is for. But I look at it this way, most people with that kind of power are generally impeccable and unconcerned. They do not care about the follies of another. So I don't see a person of power as stalking another in the first place, and what I mean by that is one who has power, if they had it, wouldnt use it. I think alien once referred to some of these stalker types on the internet as kids in capes. Thats generally what the internet stalkers are.
I agree, I do not see stalking another as helpful either...but some have said it is and I want to give that a fair shake, just in case. Although, they haven't shown me how it could be.
I was just reading Spud's intro...and have to agree with Spud that this forum is not noob friendly. There are a lot of agreements about what means what and no one is really posting clearly for anyone outside of that agreement, fwiw. Datura,
Bingo!
Sedna,
I am relatively new here, too and I am having trouble with some of the agreements and defintions, just because they are not what I have learned at other Toltec places or what I've read by CC. So trying to sort it all out to find out who means what, is proving to be a little difficult for me.
I think I've got it that 'stalking others' is more akin to the man on the street stalking, and not so much the Toltec way.
Another Man of Power who is an authority on Toltec wisdom and knowledge and works closely with some IRL Toltec Masters and Schools had this to say on the subject of 'stalking others'
Toltec warriors use a lot of different techniques to dismantle the
layers of the false ego. Stalking is one practice that both CC, Theun
Mares and Kris Raphael teaches. Stalking in Toltec teachings has nothing
to do with "Stalking" other persons. To Stalk is to observe one's own
action without to judge them.
On the subject of the AP shift, it's a real and perceivable thing. Two times recently I have had my AP shifted noticeably. Both times I felt it in my belly, I was unable to speak well and I kind of felt a little broken, but in a good way. So I tend to think of AP shifts that happen while awake as a real and noticeable shift of, not only perception, and awareness, but also power.