03-19-2013, 12:01 AM
Gonzo wrote:Uncle Sam wrote:ad Zazen (it is only nickname from Japanese, the practice is cca 6000 years old in this era ? it is from India)
Zazen is absolute. Infinite. If you take directly this advice, you will get it (this is from lineage, and this is advice from Masters, Buddhas and Patriarchs). Mountain of gold if you pratice.
In the beginning, just put one foot on calf, no forcing into half-lotus or full lotus, samadhi (cosmic) mudra and something under buttocks. Sit straightly and firmly concentrated like a tiger or dragon, then enter deep inner silence with it, softly.
When in Zazen, there is the state of Buddha. Universe becomes crystal clear.And yet, there is a claim by Nan Yueh that sitting meditation won't make a Buddha.
And so Nan-yueh took up a piece of tile and began rubbing it. Ma-tsu
asked Nan-yueh what he was doing: "I'm polishing this to make a mirror."
Ma-tsu scoffed, "How can you make a mirror by polishing a tile?"
Nan-yueh rebutted, "How can you make a Buddha by sitting in meditation?"
Also, I believe the word "Zen" is Japanese for the Chinese "Ch'an" which means "sitting meditation"
You dont know that when Nan-yueh was polishing the tile he was really meaning it to make mirror from the tile.
Intelectuals dont understand this and use this koan this to skip zazen, but in reality, all those Zen masters of lineages in China were doing zazen 10-20 hours a day for decades in their lives (i.e. entire life, zazen and work, or zazen only) to the end of their lives(dying in samadhi in zazen posture), Nan-yueh and Ma-tsu included.
Real Zen is not new age american zen e.g. Alan Watts ( http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-PHIL/ew26759.htm ), thats completely misleading.
The non-thinking is done in practice.
Zen books directly from the real Zen traditions are enlightening because they are written by enlightened. One of the best books is the Denkoroku by Mister Keizan.
Zazen is the Zen practice, concentration.
Otherwise generally awareness of present moment - concentration, i.e. work and all the actions of everyday life with awareness of present moment is the "Zen" practice.
I dont refer to zazen from the Zen perspective (real Zen practitioners in the past were doing zazen 10-20 hours a day, this is because it is called Zen school anyway). Zen is japanese for dhyana (chan in chinese).
I refer to "zazen" under Yoga.
E.g. God Shiva is sitting in Zazen. Zazen is the direct Buddhas practice. It is Yoga.
I would call stopping internal dialogue at will Zen practice too, because it is awareness of present per se. Therefore it is not needed to sit, but only if you practice the total awareness what is otherwise present in the Zazen :-) Thats Buddhas practice.
Zazen is absolute. Infinite. If you take directly this advice, you will get it (this is from lineage, and this is advice from Masters, Buddhas and Patriarchs). Mountain of gold if you pratice.
In the beginning, just put one foot on calf, no forcing into half-lotus or full lotus, samadhi (cosmic) mudra and something under buttocks. Sit straightly and firmly concentrated like a tiger or dragon, then enter deep inner silence with it, softly.
When in Zazen, there is the state of Buddha. Universe becomes crystal clear.And yet, there is a claim by Nan Yueh that sitting meditation won't make a Buddha.
And so Nan-yueh took up a piece of tile and began rubbing it. Ma-tsu
asked Nan-yueh what he was doing: "I'm polishing this to make a mirror."
Ma-tsu scoffed, "How can you make a mirror by polishing a tile?"
Nan-yueh rebutted, "How can you make a Buddha by sitting in meditation?"
Also, I believe the word "Zen" is Japanese for the Chinese "Ch'an" which means "sitting meditation"
You dont know that when Nan-yueh was polishing the tile he was really meaning it to make mirror from the tile.
Intelectuals dont understand this and use this koan this to skip zazen, but in reality, all those Zen masters of lineages in China were doing zazen 10-20 hours a day for decades in their lives (i.e. entire life, zazen and work, or zazen only) to the end of their lives(dying in samadhi in zazen posture), Nan-yueh and Ma-tsu included.
Real Zen is not new age american zen e.g. Alan Watts ( http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-PHIL/ew26759.htm ), thats completely misleading.
The non-thinking is done in practice.
Zen books directly from the real Zen traditions are enlightening because they are written by enlightened. One of the best books is the Denkoroku by Mister Keizan.
Zazen is the Zen practice, concentration.
Otherwise generally awareness of present moment - concentration, i.e. work and all the actions of everyday life with awareness of present moment is the "Zen" practice.
I dont refer to zazen from the Zen perspective (real Zen practitioners in the past were doing zazen 10-20 hours a day, this is because it is called Zen school anyway). Zen is japanese for dhyana (chan in chinese).
I refer to "zazen" under Yoga.
E.g. God Shiva is sitting in Zazen. Zazen is the direct Buddhas practice. It is Yoga.
I would call stopping internal dialogue at will Zen practice too, because it is awareness of present per se. Therefore it is not needed to sit, but only if you practice the total awareness what is otherwise present in the Zazen :-) Thats Buddhas practice.